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Barack Obama’s Close Encounter with the Weather Underground
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Wow. Sure could have used this essay about 3 months ago before the Moonbats began the ‘early voting’ scheme.
Well played Zombie…at least you are adding tsome depth to the shallow pool of info about Barry.
Zombie: Adil Najam at Pakistaniat is a trusted/respected Journalist btw, and writes articles for US publications as well as Pakistani. If he has any real bias, it’s toward the lawyers party, and that doesn’t come into play in the article you are citing.
Zombie should go back to documenting crazies at protests, rather then these “reports” on the Weather Underground. The last three reports have basically driven home the fact that the WU is a terrible, terrible group, while using coincidence and conjecture to link them to BO. One could also argue that this report excuses apartheid, arguing that any anti-apartheid work Obama did is apart of his “far-left” history, even though apartheid was a terrible system for any black to live under.
Look, I don’t like BO, but this is just sloppy journalism, and zombie should go back to doing what he/she does best, exposing the crazies still active in the movement, rather then long washed out crazies.
I keep wondering if he wasn’t attached to one of the other organizations of the era. The Black Liberation Army comes to mind – and they met up with May 19 folk for the Brinks job.
I’m also curious which church he was attending at Columbia. The Union Theological Seminary is near Columbia:
Documenting that the Weather Underground “is a terrible, terrible group” was actually one of the main points (especially of my earlier post): the media was (and continues to be) partially excusing Obama’s association with Ayers by dismissing the WU as harmless.
My “Prairie Fire” essay was published to stop once and for all the absurd whitewashing of the Weather Underground. Never again would they be able to claim that the WU was merely a “radical” group who set off a couple bombs to “protest the Vietnam War” when Obama was eight years old.
And yet, today, at the end of an article about the LA Times tape controversy, AP, uncorks this classic:
Ayers was a founder of the radical group the Weather Underground, which set off bombs at the Capitol and the Pentagon in protest of the Vietnam War nearly 40 years ago. McCain has criticized Obama for having had a friendly relationship with Ayers, with whom Obama worked on two community organizations several years ago, and for downplaying their ties.
Obama has noted that he was a child when Ayers, now a university professor, was with the Weather Underground. The Democratic candidate has condemned Ayers’ radical past and violent activities
See what I mean? They just won’t stop. The record NEEDS to be set straight.
Second of all, nowhere — NOWHERE — in the essay do I praise Apartheid or criticize anti-Apartheid protesters. I only bring up the topic because that is the point of connection between Obama and the WU. I make no comment whatsoever about the content of the topic. That’s just a typical off-topic smear on your part.
And lastly: Yes, I had to rely on conjecture in my essay. But unlike most other journalists, I admit that it’s conjecture, and I identify clearly when I’m making an unsupported conjectural leap.
I did the best I could with limited amount of data.
This essay contains mountains of damning information about Obama, even if you don’t buy into the theory that he encountered the Weather Underground in 1981.
It sure is a good thing that Ayers and the Weathermen aren’t running for president, isn’t it? Although, what with the disproportionate amount of attention being placed on them at the moment, it sure seems like they are.
I agree with the 3rd comment, Zomb. Your articles are quite eloquent and are very well researched, and I have an enourmous amount of respect for someone who actually gets off their ass and does their homework, but the notion that Obama MAYBE SORTOF MIGHT HAVE had some vague connection to some guy who was once in the Weather Underground decades ago is just a scraping from the bottom of the barrel.
I’m not an Obama supporter, but let’s face it: he’s going to win. Nobody cares about Ayers anymore, nobody cares that Obama had a party in the living room of some “washed up old terrorist” and isn’t sufficiently disgusted enough (and, I have to ask, who sets the bar on how disgusted a presidential candidate has to be with someone before it’s acceptable?) with him. I cited links before that clearly spelled out that most voters polled said they were aware of the so-called Obama-Ayers connection but it didn’t matter to them. Maybe one of the reasons why they don’t care about it is because McCain’s own links to highly undesirable individuals, including terrorists, are so obvious that they negate his moral authority to call Obama out about people like Ayers…
Also, I just have to laugh when people seize any tiny little obscure fact about Obama that differs from the “official version” and turn it into evidence of his “lying.” OMFG, you mean to say that politicans lie?!?!?!?! What a news flash that was. I especially liked this sentence from your essay:
“we cannot trust what Obama says about his time at Columbia”
Since when have we ever been able to trust any politician? I don’t trust Obama, I sure as hell don’t trust McCain.
I’ll be happy when the election is over and you go back to taking pictures of morons in love with their own self-importance making jackasses of themselves at stupid, petit-bourgeois street protests that do nothing.
“Second of all, nowhere — NOWHERE — in the essay do I praise Apartheid or criticize anti-Apartheid protesters. I only bring up the topic because that is the point of connection between Obama and the WU. I make no comment whatsoever about the content of the topic. That’s just a typical off-topic smear on your part.”
Theres nothing I disagree with you on the other statements. Still, I feel by using anti-apartheid work as a connection between Obama and the WU, that puts all anti-apartheid work in the category of crazy-left causes adopted by Obama and the communist WU, which negates any good moral justification of the anti-apatheid movement as just another commie plot. It does a disservice to the argument already on shaky grounds.
I agree with Ken above.
I think the main reason why zombie is mentions these things about BO is because alot of people think he’s an honest politician, he’s different from the other politicians, he’ll tell the truth.
But the cold hard fact is he’s just like the others it’s the just that the media hides it too well…
Excerpt from “No Place to Hide”, an 80′s documentary…
Larry Grathwohl on Ayers’ plan for American re-educatiion camps and the need to kill millions
Even here people JUST don’t get it.
Nobody defended Apartheid. We do, however, reserve the right to judge harshly, those who would
throw acid in the faces of innocent people at an airport on NYC as a protest of this practice. Why is that hard to understand ?
as Zombie points out, The WU was involved in what amounts to a 15 year crime spree that ended in 1985.
According to Zombie’s report, Obama could easily have known these peple ( who would offer him initial support later in Chicago) while they were still actively committing in 1980-82, when the Viet Nam war was pretty over, and Barack was no longer 8 years old.
Susan Rosenberg was 15 in 1970. She managed to join up (w/ WU) and the people of NJ sentenced her to 58 years in prison.
Who petitioned President Clinton for her Pardon ?
great essay! It is certainly clear that Barak Obama had very liberal socialist leaning ideals and had closer leaning to radical groups like the weathermen than most like to admit. That being said, the Barak Obama of 2008 presidential caliber fame is certainly a different Barak Obama than the young idealistic Barry Obama in New York in the early 80′s.
It is certainly clear that Barak Obama at his heart and at his roots has leanings towards liberal black liberation theology and various associated socialist causes that helped shape who he is. But he is an astute, careful man who has through circumstance and skill crafted who he has become.
I really appreciate Zombie’s reports and sheer objectivity in reporting and defining the radicals and zealots and crazies and even criminals who define so many of the issues regarding unrest in the world today!
7. Bakunin on Oct 29, 2008 at 10:59 pm:
“Still, I feel by using anti-apartheid work as a connection between Obama and the WU, that puts all anti-apartheid work in the category of crazy-left causes adopted by Obama and the communist WU, which negates any good moral justification of the anti-apatheid movement as just another commie plot.”
A first-rate logical fallacy. The left-wing crazies draw attention only by grace of their left-wing craziness, not by their anti-apartheid beliefs per se. Persons and organizations who were involved in the anti-apartheid movement and did *not* commit assault, rob banks, throw acid, or plant bombs, are utterly irrelvant to this report, and are not mentioned.
If Obama had possibly gravitated close to these extreme people via a mutual interest in chess, to point his out would not be a condemnation of chess as a crazed left wing activity. The subject of chess itself would be irrelevant. Do you get it?
Zombie- I have something that may be of interest to you. Please email me.
A Freeper reports that Hannity & Colmes has discovered Prairie Fire:
No mention of the discovery’s having come via Zombietime.
Applicants for the highest security clearance must get no presumption of innocence, but be clear of questionqable associations and affinities. Ayers and Dohrn are examples of what should be disqualifying ones for the electorate, Re: the command-in-chief of the armed forces of the US.
“Applicants for the highest security clearance must get no presumption of innocence, but be clear of questionable associations and affinities”
How about Orlando Bosch? Luis Posada Carriles? G. Gordon Liddy? Oliver North? The Contras? Oh yeah, McCain sure knows how to pick his friends, doesn’t he?
McCain doesn’t have any connection to Bosch or Carriles that I can find, and anyway they aren’t anti-American, so who cares?
Liddy and North are o.k. guys.
Billy Ayers, OTOH, is a an American-hating scumbag, commie traitor and terrorist…and he was pals with the new messiah.
STOP THE PRESSES!!!!
BLACK MAN PARTICIPATED IN BLACK POLITICS– MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ANTI-APARTHEID RALLIES
Ayers lived at 520 West 123 street, New york, New York…. If you want to check
“STOP THE PRESSES!!!!”
This is the internet, dude. It’s all digital, no presses.
Thanks for the great work. Amazing effort.
If you haven’t already, check out some of the Hillary blogs – many of them are for McCain and are sharing their experiences regarding the Obama trolls who astroturf.
(I do believe said trolls are keeping an eye on you, too. Don’t let their criticism get to you. They’re only trying to demoralize you.)
“McCain doesn’t have any connection to Bosch or Carriles that I can find”
He accepted the endorsement of someone who supports them. Someone who supports those terrorists also calls John McCain a friend. McCain is friendly with supporters of terrorism. You never answered my question: if McCain wont go after terrorist supporters in his own party, why should I believe he’ll go after Bin Laden? You also never answered my other question: why should I care about Obama and Ayers if Daley doesn’t? Why should I care about Ayers and Obama if the federal prosecutor of the Weathermen case doesn’t? As for “anti-Americans,” how about the Alaska Independence Party and their connections to Palin?
“Liddy and North are o.k. guys.”
Liddy is noted for controversial advice to his radio audience, including on one occasion in 1994, after the federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, Liddy advised his listeners: “Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they’re going to be wearing bulletproof vests. … Kill the sons of bitches.”
In 1998 Liddy hosted a fundraiser at his house for John McCain’s re-election campaign at which guests could have their pictures taken with McCain and Liddy. Over the years, Liddy, who has referred to McCain as “an old friend,” has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator’s campaigns — including $1,000 in 2008. When David Letterman asked McCain about his relationship with Liddy, McCain said, “I know Gordon Liddy. He paid his debt. He went to prison and paid his debt, as people do. I’m not in any way embarrassed to know Gordon Liddy.”
Funny how you didn’t mention the nun-raping, child-murdering Contras that John McCain supported. I guess that’s just a coincidence.
The AP article about the identify theft at Broadway Baby says that the women’s identities were stolen in 1979, when Dohrn was still underground, right? This is a very interesting article.
I do not understand. Where is the msm when we Patriots need their long tentacles? Hypnotized by a nefarious nattering narcissist?
I have voted McCain, because he has a well proven love and respect of the United States of America. A first for this 55 year old long-time, now former, Democrat in Battleground Virginia.
Thanks for coming so so so close to connecting the dots. We Patriots can pray that the msm will reveal the total truth to all Patriots before it is too late!!!
“He accepted the endorsement of someone who supports them.”
So? Like I said there is no connection between McCain and Bosch et al, and who cares if there was? They weren’t and aren’t attacking America. And, as I’ve already said, we’re not handing him over to the Cubans, because the Cubans have been helping anti-American terrorists for years…so, too bad for the Cubans if Bosch was involved in terrorist acts against Cuba. We’ll hold the guy just to screw the commies in Cuba. It’s called payback. That’s the way the game is played.
“Liddy is noted for controversial advice to his radio audience…”
Whoop-di-doo. As if anyone is going to start shooting it out with the BATF just because Gordon was having a hissy-fit over what went down at Ruby Ridge or Waco.
“Funny how you didn’t mention the nun-raping, child-murdering Contras that John McCain supported.”
That’s ’cause I don’t really give a hoot if John McCain supported the Contras, any more then I especially care that Roosevelt made us allies with Joe Stalin & co.(a million times worse than the Contras, even if you believe all the anti-Contra b.s. propaganda, but we needed them to help beat the Nazis, so we overlook their massive abuses of human rights in order to win…and tough luck if someone doesn’t like it) in WWII. The Contras weren’t attacking America. They weren’t our enemies. If McCain had supported the commies in the FSLN, then I’d be pissed off. It’s people who are against America I don’t like, especially those who engage in sabotage or terrorism against America.
Timmy McVeigh had a lot of right wing opinions (like me), but he turned traitor and terrorist and killed a bunch of Americans who didn’t deserve killing, and then he got executed for it. Good. He got exactly what he deserved, and I could give a rat’s ass what his politics were. Same thing goes for the Weathermen (except I don’t share any of their political views). And, they ought to be treated to the same thing McVeigh got. Death.
And anyone who associates with Ayers is scum.
‘As for “anti-Americans,” how about the Alaska Independence Party and their connections to Palin?’
She’s never worked with the AIP, which is a normal political party, anyway. They even won the governorship one year. If some people in their party want independence, that’s fine with me, as long as they don’t try setting off bombs at the Pentagon, or start killing cops…which they’ve never done.
Nice try at trying to draw false comparisons, though. Typical leftoid strawman hogwash.
“Like I said there is no connection between McCain and Bosch”
Nor was there any proven connection between Obama and the Weathermen, even though Zombie (and you, probably) seems to wish there was. Simply put: your double standards are revolting. You’re willing to excuse one murderer of innocent people…who actually DID kill people…but you’ll tear Obama a new one over his supposed connections to Ayers, who never killed anyone in his life (even if not for lack of trying). Dave, YOU’RE A HYPOCRITE. Why don’t you just admit it?
“As if anyone is going to start shooting it out with the BATF just because Gordon was having a hissy-fit over what went down at Ruby Ridge or Waco”
Way to miss the point, genius. McCain associates with people who advocated the murders of federal officers, just like (supposedly)–HEY–Obama and Ayers.
“The Contras weren’t attacking America. They weren’t our enemies”
Oh, yeah, hmmm…they were just attacking a democratically-elected government, one that was even supported by the World Court. But, shit, they weren’t attacking America, so who cares if McCain gave money to a group of rapists and murderers??? They were our friends! At least they didn’t sit on a educational panel with Bill Ayers, because that is just so damn unforgivable.
“Typical leftoid strawman hogwash”
Typical right-wing jingoist idiocy.
“we overlook their massive abuses of human rights in order to win…and tough luck if someone doesn’t like it”
If I may be so arrogant as to quote myself: “Typical right-wing jingoist idiocy”
Morons like you are one of the reasons I left America and WILL NEVER go back.
‘Dave, YOU’RE A HYPOCRITE.’
Not so. I’m against traitors and people who carry out terror attacks against America, no matter what their politics are, as I just stated. I couldn’t care less about terror attacks against Cuba. They’re our enemies. Nothing hypocritical about that. Like I said earlier, you need to look up the meaning of the word in a dictionary.
‘Nor was there any proven connection between Obama and the Weathermen’
Yeah, right. Billy Ayers isn’t a Weatherman, he’s one of Santa’s Helpers.
‘McCain associates with people who advocated the murders of federal officers’
If they try and seize my guns, I might just take Gordon’s advice, though I’d probably call my lawyer instead, since I don’t really want to get my head blown off in a fight I can’t win. Giving bad advice isn’t treason, it isn’t setting off bombs at the Pentagon, and it isn’t holding up armored cars and killing cops. Liddy ain’t the Weathermen.
‘Oh, yeah, hmmm…they were just attacking a democratically-elected government’
So what? The Nazis were elected too. Doesn’t mean the Nazis were our friends. The Contras were on our side, the FSLN wasn’t, so I really don’t care if McCain supported the Contras. I don’t have a problem with people who supported those who fought our communist enemies. And, you can spare me the hogwash about atrocities in Nicaragua, commie. No group in history has carried out more atrocities than you commies, including plenty carried out by the FSLN in Nicaragua.
‘If I may be so arrogant as to quote myself: “Typical right-wing jingoist idiocy”’
Take it up with with that well known rightist, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
‘Morons like you are one of the reasons I left America and WILL NEVER go back.’
Good riddance to bad commie rubbish. Have fun in the land of Mao, a nation well known for its longstanding fondness for democracy, and where commies like you murdered tens of millions. Hopefully, you’ll run afoul of the commie authorities yourself a la Trotsky, and wind up in the Laogai. It would serve you right, and there’s nothing I enjoy more than watching lefties getting screwed by other lefties.
“where commies like you murdered tens of millions”
Oh, is it merely tens of millions now? Last ridiculously-inflated-figure-that-no-one-could-prove that I heard was 100 million! You red baiters just can’t get your figures straight, can you? Your poorly-informed opinions of China are so laughably out of date that I can barely even type this sentence correctly due to my fits of laughter. You wouldn’t last a day here, you wouldn’t last a day outside of America, so hopefully you’ll just stay there in your nest of “My America: right or wrong” extremism. Nobody wants to hear your loud-mouthed opinions, anyway.
“Giving bad advice isn’t treason”
Advocating the murder of police officers isn’t a quality most people like to see in the people surrounding their president. I should think you’d know that, what with all the conniption fits you’ve had about Ayers recently on this board. Nor do people like their president to pal around with supporters of terrorism, something that you also seem quite passionate about. Your cold-hearted “they’re our enemies” comments also bely your ignorance of Bosch’s crimes: you do realize he bombed a commercial airliner and killed mostly innocent people, don’t you? But you don’t care about people unless they’re Americans, am I right? Arrogant attitudes like yours are one of the main reasons why the entire world loathes America so much. Unfortunately, I often get lumped in with fools like you by grace of us having the same passport.
“Hopefully, you’ll run afoul of the commie authorities”
Hmmm, they DID let me apply for permanent residence, so I don’t think I’ll wind up on their bad side anytime soon. Don’t hold your breath, buddy Or, rather, DO hold your breath. It’ll be one less idiot taking up space in the world.
“Hmmm, they DID let me apply for permanent residence”
Well, commie governments aren’t famed for making intelligent decisions.
That all you got?
Not half as pathetic as some commie wanker in the PRC yammering on about democratically elected governments, or complaining about atrocities.
A commie complaining about murdering innocent people is about as impressive as a Nazi bitching about anti-semitism.
I’ve got to agree with Bakunin and Ken on this one. Zombie seems to be slowly transforming from a great photojournalist to a run-of-the-mill conspiracy theorist.
Every time I read your article I understand all this better.
Little Green Footballs has the full text of “Pairie Fire.”
A writer named Jack Cashill is saying that Billy Ayers ghostwrote Obama’s memoir Dreams from my father.
All this time spent using the old guilt-by-association smear tactic, and Obama still got elected. If you had to do it all over again, your time might be better spent trying to persuade voters that your candidate is the better choice. Of course, trying to convince people to vote for a Vietnam War criminal is a hard sell.
Is the Brother From Another Planet concealing homosexual activities in NYC circa 1981? Stay tuned folks.
So what are you, pro apartheid? Just like McCain, Reagan, Thatcher. You should be proud.
awesome dude. i just wish america had read your super investigative report on this shady presidunces background. i am quite sure ayers and dorhn would have gotten the death penalty, if it were not for the illegal wiretaps. how could j edgar be so stupid as to do illeagl wiretaps? there were 2 cops and a guard killed in the second brinks robbery of 1981. death of a law enforcement officer equals a capital crime punisnable by the gas chamber in NYS. if ayers and dorhn had been given the ultimate punishment for their heinous crimes, hussein obama may never had hooked up with this murdering duo, and we would have had Hillary or mccain as our rightful proper US sident. my cousin, bill moroney, was murdered in the Bronx NYC 292000 dollr Brinks heist of june 2nd 1981and permantly disabling hs partner robert schlacter. isnt it curoius that obama moves to columbia in june 1981 and the Inwood brinks heist occurs. this is the main reason i believe that obama doesnt want people to know of his activities around the time he attended columbia. ayers and dorhn knew about this heist and obama probably knew of the robberies. he was poor and like many blacks resorted to crime to make a living. time for obama to come clean about his role in the weathermen and to make sure his pals pay restitution from their large publicly funded professorships, to all the numerous victims of their reign or terror. its sorta like obamas unwillingness to make the CEOs pay up for their corporate crimes in the current economic crisis. in his pals case he allows them to escape responsibility for all the pain they have caused the victims. this is classic obama. irresponsible.
Wow looks like this took you some time to come up with.
I guess making tenuious and treacherous allegations regarding your president makes a nice distrction from having your head up Charles Johnson’s ass.
I’m hoping anyone here can help me. Several months ago, I came across a site that called, “Obama’s Circle of Friends”, I believe. In that thread is a page full of thumbnail pictures (about 25-30) of friends &/or associates of Obama.
When you run your cursor over a thumbnail, it would give you the name of that person; click onto the pic & it would take you to the info on who the person is & how they are connected to Obama.
I had that thread saved to my “Favorites”, but when I took my puter to
the shop, it was erased.
Please help as it’s very important.
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Да…. Фактов всегда достаточно – не хватает фантазии. Желаю автору ее поболее :)
In your essay I have extracted the paragraph below. The name NATHANIEL BURNS(my caps) is mentioned. He was caught and sentenced but he adopted the surname ODINGA–the name of Obama’s Kenyan cousin.Bearing in mind that there was no internet then and that most black peoples origins were from WEST AFRICA, how did NATHANIEL BURNS know the name ODINGA unless he had spoken to BARACK OBAMA aka BARRY SOETORO and heard his life story. By then I think Obama had gone back to Kenya to meet his father’s extended family” HOW DID NATHANIEL BURNS KNOW THE NAME OF ODINGA? Simple, he had to have known Obama.
“On March 22, 1980, according to the officials, the duplicate license of the woman from Riverside Drive was used to rent a van in White Plains that figured in an armored car robbery in Inwood, L.I., where five bandits made off with $500,000. Again, the woman told the rental agency that she was a waitress at the Blarney Castle. Renting from the same agency that day was a white man, who, impersonating a real Manhattan resident named Schatzkin, had obtained a duplicate license on Dec. 27, 1979. Moreover, the day before the robbery a woman in Inwood whose home had recently been burglarized took down the license number of a car cruising the area. The plate, officials say, was traced to a friend of NATHANIEL BURNS. On March 28, 1981, a man who had impersonated a real Manhattan resident named Hersh and obtained a duplicate license rented a van in Connecticut that was used in an aborted armored car robbery in Danbury, Conn., in which one of several bandits fired a high-powered weapon at the windshield of the armored car. The driver, who escaped injury, sped off. On June 2, 1981, at least four robbers made off with $292,000 after ambushing an armored car in the north Bronx, and shooting to death one of the guards. Officials say the van was rented by a man who had obtained a duplicate license by impersonating a real Manhattan resident named Barranco.”
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I believe that Obama never attended Columbia, pure and simple. That is why there are no photos, no records, no one knows him , and so forth. The photos of Obama in New York are Photoshop fakes. That has been proven over and over again.
You might find this interesting. A previous Ayers link.
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This link shows information from Columbia stating he enrolled on 09/01/1982 and got his degree on 05/17/1983. So, what was he doing from the time he left Occidental in mid-1981 until he started at Columbia in fall of 1982, assuming the Columbia date is correct? Wikipedia says he started at Columbia in 1981. If he started Columbia in 1982, he only spent 3 years in college. Did he get a “special” degree?
This link link shows information from Columbia stating he enrolled on 09/01/1982 and got his degree on 05/17/1983. So, what was he doing from the time he left Occidental in mid-1981 until he started at Columbia in fall of 1982, assuming the Columbia date is correct? Wikipedia says he started at Columbia in 1981. If he started Columbia in 1982, he only spent 3 years in college. Did he get a “special” degree?
Apartheid is a form of bigotry and repression. It’s inhumane, unjust, and undemocratic. It’s something any moral, decent human being SHOULD protest.
I am against violence, and the Weather Underground became criminals themselves by resorting to violence instead of sticking to non-violent protest.
I am not a supporter of Obama either.
BUT, I strongly dislike the writer’s attempt to imply there is something wrong with protesting apartheid, something any true American should do, including by assembling peaceably, as the Constitution points out, or by petitioning this or ANY government for redress of grievances.
Apartheid is a grievance – a grievous sin. Shame on the writer for over and over trying to make it appear protesting against it is somehow the equivalent of communism or Marxism. Protesting Apartheid is about as democratic as it gets.
This article just makes the writer look like a bigot himself.
Thank you, Zombietime. I read your amazing article in 2008 and have never forgotten the many details, particularly the parts about the Weather Underground and the Springboks and Brinks robbery. I, too, believe there’s a connection between Obama and Ayers and Dohrn going back to Obama’s Columbia days. So, when I came across a concrete piece of the puzzle recently, I thought of you.
On Joel Gilbert’s site, http://www.obamasrealfather.com, in the section heading “Director Q & A” is this :
” The May 19th Communist Organization was an above ground support group for the Weather Underground based in New York City from 1978-1985. ‘May 19′ carried out raucous anti-Apartheid and Anti-Klan protests and operated a host of front organizations. At the time, Bill Ayers wrote that May 19 provided “a sea for the guerillas to swim in.” Some May 19 members committed acts of violence and terrorism, such as the 1981 Nanuet Brinks robbery and murders, the bombing of the South African offices in 1981, and the US Capital bombing in 1983. I spoke with a former FBI informant who told me the May 19th Communist Organization had a weapons training camp in the Catskill Mountains, run by former Black Panthers. In addition, some May 19 members were sent to Cuba for several weeks each year with the Venceremos Brigades, a continuation of the SDS/ Weather Underground program begun in the sixties, for explosives training from Cuban Intelligence, DGI. A FORMER MAY 19 MEMBER I SPOKE WITH IDENTIFIED OBAMA AS PARTICIPATING IN THEIR PUBLIC PROTESTS AND MEETINGS…”
Obama was in New York City and was involved with the May 19th Communist Organization in the early 1980′s! No wonder there is such a shroud around this time in Obama’s life. This connection leads to so many possibilities, especially that he knew Ayers back then.