On a recent trip to Berkeley I encountered this remarkable crew of young street preachers:


One held up a large sign that said (referring to a drawing of a “white” Jesus),

“This is the Devil.
This Image is not Biblical
Jesus is a negro
Not a whiteman

Jesus es negro
No blanco

El Diablo”

Though the message is a little confusing, I took it to mean: “The ‘white’ Jesus is the Devil. The Victorian-era drawings of Jesus as a blue-eyed European are not biblically accurate. The real Jesus was black, not white.”

While the street preachers did have a point about Jesus being overly Europeanized in art during the 19th and early 20th centuries, perhaps they took their point a little too far the other way? Contemporary scholars almost universally agree that the historical Jesus was a Middle-Eastern Jew, and likely had brown hair and brown eyes, along with what is is called an “olive-complexioned” Middle Eastern skin tone.

What I found most intriguing is that while the preachers seemed to be Christian (with one of them reading aloud from the Bible), they still were OK with calling Jesus “the Devil.”


Meanwhile, their next sign listed the 12 tribes of Israel as being various New World nations and ethnic groups — most of which didn’t even exist in pre-Columbian times. (That is to say, the modern nations listed, such as Uruguay and Haiti, didn’t develop until thousands of years after the tribes of Israel were first listed in the Bible; and ethnicities such as “Mexican” or “Dominican” only arose after the European arrival in the New World.)


And the final sign said “America’s destruction is at hand!” along with a picture of a Soviet-era nuclear-tipped ICBM hurtling across the sky.

So: What are we to make of all this?

Combined, the messages say:

- Jesus (or at least “white Jesus”) is the Devil.
- Jesus was actually black.
- The 12 tribes of Israel were actually from the Caribbean, South and Central America.
- The USSR will destroy the United States with nuclear missiles.

I’m trying to piece this all together into a cohesive worldview, and not succeeding. Any suggestions?

(The photo below came out a little better than the top photo, but I missed part of the sign. Sigh.)

What’s it all mean?

204 Responses to “"This Image Is Not Biblical": Extreme street preaching”

  1. 1senorpancake on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:02 am:

    i think it means, “i’m in berkeley and i’m desperately trying to get a reaction out of someone, anyone!”.

  2. 2Incognito on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:22 am:

    This sounds like an African American sect that seem to put Bible in a black context. I checked the YouTube videos of this group who believe that the descendants of the 12 Tribes of Israel is what you observed as listed on the poster.

    I just think it is another form of Replacement Theology, that Christians of black African Hispanic Americans replaced the Jews.

    There are many sects and cults out there…and as you noticed, their theology may not be rational.

  3. 3Dane on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:46 am:

    I think they might be Rastafarians or some related group. Fairly certain I’ve heard those talking points before (particularly the Tribes of Israel one) in conjunction with Rastafarianism.

  4. 4Ken on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:59 am:

    The 12 tribes of Israel were actually from the Caribbean, South and Central America

    Don’t know about the others, but this point seems to be one that is passed around by the Black Hebrew Israelites, a group of mostly African-American Jews who claim that “Jews” today are not the true Jews. This view is held to varying extremes by these different groups (some hate “Jews” because they see them as usurpers of the true Jewish heritage which, to them, was mostly black. Others view “Jews” as false Jews but still respect them for mainting the Torah and for suffering for Judaism over the centuries). As far as I know, this isn’t anything new, although I think the Black Hebrew Israelites have mostly been based in New York. Louis Theroux did an interesting and funny interview with them (wherein one of their leaders claimed Tom Jones and William Shakespeare were actually black) in his documentary “Black Nationalism,” which you can find on Google Video. There’s also a small Black Hebrew Israelite (they’re also called “Commandment Keepers,” I think) community that immigrated to Israel. I’m pretty sure I saw them on, of all places, the Jerry Springer Show back in the day.

  5. 5Redbear on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:49 am:

    These poor people are trying unsuccessfully to relate their lives and incorrect worldview to 4000 year old doctrine which is obviously n

    Ahh – they are nuts – the mother ship needs to come and get them.

  6. 6Roscoe on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:50 am:

    Well, since they appear to believe that the destruction of America is going to come from missiles labeled USSR, I think it means that you stepped into some sort of time warp……..otherwise known as Berkeley.

  7. 7Roscoe on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:55 am:

    ps………I love the looks you get from some of the people you’re photographing. It’s true what they say about a picture being worth a thousand words………….

  8. 8Starless on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:40 am:

    At first glance, the 12 tribes stuff looks either like a bizarro interpretation of the Mormon story, instead of just the lost 13th Battlestar Galactica tribe being lost in the New World, all of the Jewish tribes made a trip across the Atlantic, or a gross twisting a Rastafarianism, where tribe membership is based on the month of your birth, not the place of your birth. The Black Jesus thing is very definitely Rastafarian, but has seeped its way into mainstream black racial identity politicking. It is, in fact, a fairly old and passe claim.

    Over all, it looks like the a pastiche millennial religion that springs up among working class and poor who feel oppressed by mainstream culture. Unlike crazy middle and upper class religions which always seem to integrate some sort of technology and aliens in their beliefs.

    Ken: Louis Theroux did an interesting and funny interview with them (wherein one of their leaders claimed Tom Jones and William Shakespeare were actually black) in his documentary “Black Nationalism,”

    Oh, yeah. There’s the parallel track in gay identity politicking where activists try to claim as many famous people as they can so that the famous person’s integrity will rub off on them.

  9. 9Dubya Bee on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:56 am:

    It’s easy, really. They, like so many others, have been lead astray by the work of Satan.

  10. 10Throbert McGee on Oct 25, 2009 at 6:05 am:

    Don’t miss the blue stripe and fringed edges on the poncho-like coverings of the two guys on the left side of the bottom photo. The guy holding the This Is The Devil sign has a fawn-colored “poncho,” and my first thought was that it was supposed to be some sort of pseudo-Injun costume (i.e., resembling fringed buckskin), going along with the idea that North American Indians are supposedly descended from the Lost Tribes of Israel.

    But then it clicked — the “fringed ponchos” are intended to be tallit with tzitzit.

  11. 11Throbert McGee on Oct 25, 2009 at 6:08 am:

    Redbear: Ahh – they are nuts – the mother ship needs to come and get them.

    Calling the mother ship! Come in, mothership!

  12. 12Starless on Oct 25, 2009 at 8:34 am:

    Throbert McGee: Calling the mother ship! Come in, mothership!

    You the mothership is near when the funk begins.

  13. 13Starless on Oct 25, 2009 at 8:35 am:

    “You know”, g’dammit.

  14. 14Fenris on Oct 25, 2009 at 8:43 am:

    Any idea what that comic-looking sign next to the “12 Tribes of Israel” said? It might put things in context.

    Geez, those expressions could kill.

  15. 15Incognito on Oct 25, 2009 at 9:00 am:

    Throbert McGee: But then it clicked — the “fringed ponchos” are intended to be tallit with tzitzit.

    Quote

    You are right!

    I guess I was not aware of a black Jewish group that thinks white Jewish groups as usurpers of true Judaism…

  16. 16jeff on Oct 25, 2009 at 9:03 am:

    The libs are right, racism is indeed alive and well in America.

  17. 17Throbert McGee on Oct 25, 2009 at 9:06 am:

    I’m trying to piece this all together into a cohesive worldview, and not succeeding. Any suggestions?

    I think it pretty much boils down to “Die, Honky.”

  18. 18Syrah on Oct 25, 2009 at 9:10 am:

    This sect is “preaching” here in the streets of Seattle. They are definitely not from the “good news” school of evangelism. I haven’t engaged them to find out what they are about. I tend to shy away from people that scream and shout insults at people passing-by on the street.

  19. 19Incognito on Oct 25, 2009 at 9:47 am:

    Syrah: I tend to shy away from people that scream and shout insults at people passing-by on the street.

    I agree with you on that one! And Zombie took these pictures of these folks and their eyes are not friendly either!! Look at the guy with the blue bandanna…mean looking!!

    Zombie, looks like they looked at you…will they remember what you look like after these photos are posted?

  20. 20Throbert McGee on Oct 25, 2009 at 10:01 am:

    Starless: There’s the parallel track in gay identity politicking where activists try to claim as many famous people as they can so that the famous person’s integrity will rub off on them.

    Well, in the case of the gay activists who try to claim historic figures as “gay,” it is often motivated by a desire to sponge off the “famous person’s integrity,” just as you say.

    But occasionally, it’s more a reaction to the “straightwashing” of history, where the quite likely homosexuality of major historical personages is heavily bowdlerized, creating the impression that these personages were actually heterosexual, or at most they had homoerotic urges that were never ever ever given real-life physical expression (implying that it’s more dignified to be a repressed, totally celibate “eunuch” than to be a “practicing homo”).

    Thus, in biographies of men like Michelangelo or Walt Whitman, you’ll find formulations like “although homoerotic themes are evident in his writings, there’s NO CONCRETE PROOF that he ever had sexual contact with another man.” To which an unprejudiced reader ought to respond:

    Pfffft — how much “proof” does that actually need? We’re not debating whether Michelangelo was really a shapeshifting leprechaun, or if Walt Whitman was a 4,000-year-old extra-terrestrial who’d been stranded on Earth since his people built the Egyptian pyramids. The “True or False?” proposition being considered is “Michelangelo enjoyed slurping on the hot Italian rods of his male models”, and that simply doesn’t belong in the category of Extraordinary Claims That Require Extraordinary Evidence.

    Having said that, I will repeat a theme that I brought up in the Kevin Jennings thread: things are much better than they used to be just a few generations ago — yet some gay activists like to pretend that the entire world is still stuck in the late Victorian era, and that there’s some sort of massive “Christianist” conspiracy to censor out any and all references to homosexuality in pre-modern records.

  21. 21Incognito on Oct 25, 2009 at 10:12 am:

    Throbert McGee: yet some gay activists like to pretend that the entire world is still stuck in the late Victorian era, and that there’s some sort of massive “Christianist” conspiracy to censor out any and all references to homosexuality in pre-modern records.

    Throbbert, gay activists think that the right wing Christianity is the only enemy they have…they forget Islam.

    And on top of that, I was reading life of a Roman Emperor during the Roman era BEFORE Christianity and he had homosexual lover but the Roman culture would have none of it…so he had to marry a woman he did not love. That to me was an example of a NON-Christian culture that had homophobia in the culture as today’s politically correct people would call it…

  22. 22Throbert McGee on Oct 25, 2009 at 10:19 am:

    Ken: Don’t know about the others, but this point seems to be one that is passed around by the Black Hebrew Israelites, a group of mostly African-American Jews who claim that “Jews” today are not the true Jews.

    Erm… they’re “Jews” like members of the Nation of Islam are “Muslim” — or even less so.

  23. 23Ringo the Gringo on Oct 25, 2009 at 10:38 am:

    I’ve seen this same group – same outfits, similar signs – “preaching” at Venice Beach and on Hollywood Blvd, but it’s been years since I’ve seen them.

    When they would stand along Hollywood Blvd, both tourists and locals would literally cross the street to avoid walking past them and their angry, violent rants. The shop owners hated them.

  24. 24Ringo the Gringo on Oct 25, 2009 at 10:43 am:

    Dane: I think they might be Rastafarians or some related group. Fairly certain I’ve heard those talking points before (particularly the Tribes of Israel one) in conjunction with Rastafarianism.

    These guys are not Rastafarians.

  25. 25stuiec on Oct 25, 2009 at 10:57 am:

    Sure, everyone wants to be a Jew… when the crematoria aren’t fired up.

  26. 26buzzsawmonkey on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:12 am:

    The same sect shows up on streetcorners in New York, and has for years. I forget their name, but the “Twelve Tribes” stuff is very familiar.

    They manage to combine the anti-white racism of the NOI with some weird form of part-Christianity, part-Judaism.

  27. 27Guy Average on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:25 am:

    2 Timothy 4:3 (New International Version)
    3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

    These folks are an example of what is described in the Bible passage above.

    What’s it all mean?

    There is a highly subjective answer for that question somewhere.

  28. 28Ringo the Gringo on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:34 am:

    There are quite a few videos of these so called “Black Israelites” at You tube. Here’s one of them confronting a more coventional street preacher: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAMnbijM-wo

    And here is a video of them meeting a US Marine on the street: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhuG3TB618qX8E5WO4

  29. 29Ringo the Gringo on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:20 pm:

    One thing that makes this picture different is that I’ve never seen Hispanic people with this sect before.

  30. 30muchspace on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:53 pm:

    That group are the Black Hebrews or as we called them in NYC the “Black Hebros”. When I lived in NYC they were based out of Harlem and they had lots of shows on NYC public access TV. The one show I remember was “The Blacks are the Real Jews” were they said Hashem would enslave all the White people. But basically their show was reading the bible and making racist comments about White people. I used to see them on the street in various places around Manhattan screaming hatred racist crap. It doesn’t surprise me their in Berkeley. The New York Times did an article about them sometime in the 1990′s, it was basically a puff piece though.

  31. 31Starless on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:00 pm:

    Guy Average: 3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

    “Obadiah, his servants. There shall, in that time, be rumours of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi– with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o’clock. Yea, it is written in the book of Cyril that, in that time, shall the third one… “

  32. 32Incognito on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:30 pm:

    Ringo the Gringo: One thing that makes this picture different is that I’ve never seen Hispanic people with this sect before.

    I would not be surprised that some would be attracted to the sect. The Hispanics have a popular saying “Viva la Raza!” and now who is racist?

  33. 33MikalM on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:54 pm:

    Funny…the so-called “Identity Christians” or “Anglo-Israelites” also promulgate this myth of the Lost Tribes of Israel morphing into a bloc of ethnic nations, the key difference being that they identify the descendents of the ancient Hebrews as being the modern peoples of Great Britain, or more broadly, Western Europe and White America.

    (As absurd as their pseudo-theology is, at least the White racist Identity Christians aren’t dumb enough to try to identify modern mixed-thnic nation-states like Cuba and Mexico with the Twelve Tribes. And has anyone informed this brilliant bunch of historical scholars that Argentina, Uruguay and Chile are mostly ethnically White nations?)

    Another interesting point is that the Mormons also link the Lost Tribes with modern-day Amerindians. They believe that two groups of Israelites, the Nephites and the Lamanites, emigrated to the New World where the latter eventually exterminated the former, and were “punished” for their transgression by being given dark skin. The Lamanites became modern-day Amerindians, and a whole subculture of Mormon pseudoscholarship has grown up around trying to prove that the Maya, Aztecs, and other groups have a cultural and genetic link to the Biblical Hebrews.

  34. 34dfbaskwill on Oct 25, 2009 at 4:00 pm:

    I saw this same crew in Philadelphia in front of the Reading Terminal Market a year ago. They had a bullhorn and loudly read from the Bible in between ridiculous side comments. There were all kinds of crazy outfits too.

  35. 35stuiec on Oct 25, 2009 at 4:01 pm:

    What’s it all mean?

    So there’s this book, right? And it’s got all this stuff in it about how this God guy is really powerful and can do really good things for people He likes (and really bad things to people He doesn’t like). And it says in this book that the people that God likes the very extra special best are the Jews.

    Now, it’s certainly not possible that this book is talking about those hook-nosed, greasy-haired money-grubbers who call each other European names in their crappy German with the funny alphabet. Those people must be impostors who stole the birthright of the real Jews — you know, the Black people and the Hispanic people, the real Israelites.

    Everything those big-snouted impostors have was stolen from or cheated away from the real Israelites. The impostors’ wealth needs to be given to its true owners, and the impostors themselves need to disappear… by whatever means necessary.

    /nutbag off

  36. 36Ken on Oct 25, 2009 at 4:20 pm:

    Incognito: You are right! I guess I was not aware of a black Jewish group that thinks white Jewish groups as usurpers of true Judaism…

    In that documentary I mentioned, Louis Theroux (who is a great documentarian. just about anything he does is hilarious) goes to see the Black Hebrew Israelites on the reccomendation of, I think, the Nation of Islam. So, that should tell you something. And I seem to remember a scene where Louis passed by a mural of a black Moses riding on a horse that was trampling the Pope. Pretty out there.

    Naturally, I’d assume that most black Jews are just like any other Jews. These guys I’m talking about are the fringe of the fringe as far as I know.

  37. 37Guy Average on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:05 pm:

    Starless: “Obadiah, his servants. There shall, in that time, be rumours of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi– with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o’clock. Yea, it is written in the book of Cyril that, in that time, shall the third one… ”

    Got a link for that?

  38. 38Incognito on Oct 25, 2009 at 9:20 pm:

    Guy Average: Got a link for that?

    Quote

    Scene 14 from the Life of Brian

    http://www.westmont.edu/~fisk/Articles/MontyPython.htm

    BORING PROPHET: …Obadiah, his servants. There shall, in that time, be rumours of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi– with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o’clock. Yea, it is written in the book of Cyril that, in that time, shall the third one…

  39. 39JJM on Oct 25, 2009 at 9:58 pm:

    Redbear nailed it: they’re loons.

  40. 40Cynthia on Oct 25, 2009 at 10:42 pm:

    :[ These sorts of groups are really pitiful (in the sense of deserving pity). I mean, what do they accomplish, other than confusing people? They don’t seem to understand the spirit of what Christ taught or care that they are probably hurting people. It saddens me, as a Christian, to hear about this.

    Guy Average: 2 Timothy 4:3 (New International Version)
    3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.These folks are an example of what is described in the Bible passage above.

    Quite true.

  41. 41arhooley on Oct 25, 2009 at 10:54 pm:

    Why do nutjobs this creative bother with the Bible at all? Why don’t they write their own creation myths, invent their own deities, and chalk up a moral code that calls for weekends off and free donuts?

  42. 42Dane on Oct 26, 2009 at 12:17 am:

    “I saw this same crew in Philadelphia in front of the Reading Terminal Market a year ago. They had a bullhorn and loudly read from the Bible in between ridiculous side comments. There were all kinds of crazy outfits too.”

    Really? I’m living a few blocks off South Street, pretty close to there, and this is the first I’ve ever seen of anything like this – aside from my previous mention of Rastafarians, who don’t seem to do the whole street preaching thing (and generally look a lot less sullen and a lot more, uh, baked).

  43. 43Rob Taylor on Oct 26, 2009 at 2:38 am:

    They’re the Hispanic off-shoot of the Black Israelite movement. While the Nation of Yahweh (run by convicted murderer Hulon Mitchell jr AKA Yahweh Ben Yahweh) expresses a strict Black supremacist ideology some off-shoots of the Black Israeli movement define “Black” so loosely as to include Latinos of European descent, Native Americans and even Asians. The religion is based around the anti-White mythology of the Nation of Islam (in which Mitchell was a member at one point, before being thrown out of embezzlement and I believed suspected child molestation) and a reversal of the Anglo-Israelite movement sprinkled with some of the New Age theories the highly educated Mitchell absorbed through reading. His cult is a known racket that has been probed often by the government and the NOI may still have a hit out on him.

    The Hispanic versions of this cult are active in Latin American and Caribbean countries with diverse and ethnically blended population who may still have the remnants of European class systems (like Guyana, Dominican Republic etc.) and are misogynists, violent and dangerous. Document them in public but never interact with these degenerates, especially women. You’ll notice that female members of these cults are never seen publicly. They’re basically enslaved, and when I was in college getting a degree in Comparative Religion informants from that part of the world said it was widely believed they ran rape camps on their cult compounds. That’s rumor, but their misogyny and violence is well documented.

  44. 44Starless on Oct 26, 2009 at 5:05 am:

    stuiec: Everything those big-snouted impostors have was stolen from or cheated away from the real Israelites.

    You forgot to mention the tails. And the horns. And the baking Christian babies into pies.

    Cynthia: I mean, what do they accomplish, other than confusing people?

    They achieve what all cultish sects achieve: draw the extremely discontented to them and solidify their groupthink. Considering I quoted Life of Brian above, see the “what have the Romans ever done for us?” scene for a good example of that kind of groupthink.

    arhooley: Why do nutjobs this creative bother with the Bible at all?

    In order to draw new converts they have to start from a legitimate source — something people people already believe in. From there they can say, “The Bible is sacred and only we know the true interpretation of The Word. All of those conventional sects are blasphemers.” Come into my parlor…

    Rob Taylor: You’ll notice that female members of these cults are never seen publicly. They’re basically enslaved, and when I was in college getting a degree in Comparative Religion informants from that part of the world said it was widely believed they ran rape camps on their cult compounds.

    (Speaking of Guyana) See Jonestown, the Branch Davidians, and pretty much every other apocalyptic/millennial cult and at its core you’ll find some form of sexual abuse. It’s the ultimate way to control someone.

  45. 45Incognito on Oct 26, 2009 at 7:32 am:

    That was interesting comments, Rob Taylor! Thanks for sharing! We sure have kooky people! Can these folks be arrested for abusing women then?

  46. 46Marauder on Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 am:

    Sorry for hijacking the thread, but – there’s no proof Walt Whitman ever had sex with a man? If you put it that way, there’s no proof George and Martha Washington ever had sex. Unless people have kids, you actually see them having sex, or one’s sexual bodily fluids are found in or on the other, how is there supposed to be proof that they had sex? (George and Martha didn’t have any kids together.)

    At any rate, Walt Whitman kissed Oscar Wilde on the mouth when Oscar Wilde was on his American tour, and he (WW) kept a diary of the different guys he picked up and slept with.

    Back on topic, I, like some other people here, thought of Mormons while looking at the “tribes of Israel” thing.

  47. 47MikalM on Oct 26, 2009 at 10:32 am:

    Rob,

    Very interesting info! I’m something of a self-taught expert on kooky kults, but I’ve never heard of a Hispanic split-off from Hulon Mitchell’s murderous sect. Got any sources for more info on them?

  48. 48Ringo the Gringo on Oct 26, 2009 at 11:24 am:

    The poster of Jesus with devil horns also features a picture Cesare Borgia, the son of Pope Alexander VI, who they appear to believe was the model for the evil white Jesus.

  49. 49Poteen on Oct 26, 2009 at 12:04 pm:

    What’s it all mean?

    Don’t take the brown acid!

  50. 50Maria on Oct 26, 2009 at 12:06 pm:

    These boys are not Rastas, at least not anything main stream.

    I’ve seen gentlemen like these both New York and Atlanta over the years. I have no clue if they are the same group which travels around the country or if there are a handful of true believers in every major city. But both groups had the same sort of signs, (jesus /devil and the tribes stuff) Though the guys in New York had a side table with handouts. Both times I’ve seen them they where shouting into the air and at anyone within hearing distance. They mightily weave insults into their “insights”. I shy away from engaging street screamers (maybe we shyers need to stop doing that…) However, I’ve had one lad specifically tell me: “listen to the mans word and mind your place” so that was all I needed to hear from him.

    Can we get these boys, some Mormons and the KKK together on an episode of the View? I think I’d buy a ticket to that.

    As for the fringe, well, you can see the fringe in two ways, that it’s so tattered, frayed, disorganized and unraveling that it hasn’t got what it takes to do wholesale damage or that it’s got us so surrounded that every day more threads become loose.

  51. 51common_sense on Oct 26, 2009 at 12:17 pm:

    these are converts to “islam”

    expect more middle eastern born ones to join them from the MX border

    it’s a warning is all……….back to sleep now everyone

  52. 52pat on Oct 26, 2009 at 3:52 pm:

    What does it mean? They are Democrats.

  53. 53Rob Taylor on Oct 26, 2009 at 5:21 pm:

    MikalM

    On occasion you can find videos on YouTube and other file sharing sites of them. They speak about conspiracies alot so sometimes you can run into them by using keywords like “Illuminati” and such. Also “true Israelite” and the like.

  54. 54Starless on Oct 27, 2009 at 5:18 am:

    Maria: Can we get these boys, some Mormons and the KKK together on an episode of the View? I think I’d buy a ticket to that

    Are you saying the Mormons, the KKK, and these guys are morally equivalent?

  55. 55Sawam on Oct 27, 2009 at 8:50 am:

    My husband was a bit surprised to learn that he is now a “so called Negro” Jew.

    He was raised in the Middle East and he also says that there is no way the guy on the far right is Latino.

  56. 56Roscoe on Oct 27, 2009 at 9:33 am:

    Don’t know if this is the same group, but………….

    http://www.riseisrael.com/israel.html

  57. 57Pvt Bin Jammin on Oct 27, 2009 at 9:55 am:

    I have encountered members of this group in downtown Pasadena, CA. They were very rude and confrontational with the passers by. Creepy.

  58. 58Elsa on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:59 am:

    They are a bunch of thugged out kids with a mix of revisionist history and new age bullshit. That is all.

  59. 59Ken on Oct 27, 2009 at 4:57 pm:

    common_sense: these are converts to “islam”

    Even though they’re reading the Bible and wearing what are supposed to be tallit?

  60. 60phoenixgirl on Oct 27, 2009 at 5:08 pm:

    the guy with the beard looks like a muslim

  61. 61Scott on Oct 27, 2009 at 6:05 pm:

    I find it curious that all of these self-righteous people have decided to “rise up” against whitey. Funny thing is, anthoropologists have identified early Europeans, and they were…(by strict racial identification) black. So all of this angst about who is black, who is white, who is “real” and who isn’t is bunk.

    Also, methinks the missile is a Soviet one because Fidel or Hugo would be the ones to launch it…not Vladamir. Just sayin’.

  62. 62Thank You Elsa on Oct 27, 2009 at 6:15 pm:

    I think you nailed it.

  63. 63Josephine on Oct 27, 2009 at 6:54 pm:

    I came across a group of black men in downtown Toronto this summer. One of them was holding a King James Bible aloft and hollering as he read from it. The sign depicting Jesus with horns caught my eye and I stopped to see the others. They had the same signs as in Zombie’s photos, above, plus others. They let me photograph their signs and books but I took care not to photograph their faces because they were a bit hostile.

    They said they were the true Jews, the true Israelites. They wrote a name on a piece of paper for me so I could look for their YouTube videos but I can’t find it. They said their videos kept being taken off YouTube. I asked the name of their religion and they were evasive. I asked who started their religion or church and I can’t remember what they told me. (I also can’t find the email I wrote to friends about my encounter, which means I probably deleted it.)

    I can’t remember how they explained why Jews think it’s okay to call themselves Jews or Israelites (something about a misunderstanding based on the way it is written in the Bible) and why they’re wrong.

    According to them, the image of Jesus as a white man is a lie and therefore a picture of the devil because Jesus was actually a black man.

    They showed me two books: “Nature Knows No Color-Line” by J.A. Rogers and “Sex and Race” (no author’s name on the cover but, according to Amazon, it is by the same author). They showed me a page in the former book with depictions of “Negroes in Coats-of-Arms of Noble Families” in the chapter, “Negro Ancestry in the White Race”. They seemed to think these books were shocking and almost forbidden.

    One of their posters had pictures of orthodox Jews, a map showing “The Khazar kingdom in the early 18th century”, a page from Der Sturmer, two book covers — “The Thirteenth Tribe” by Arthur Koestler and “Blood Passover, the Jews of Europe and Ritual Murder” — and in between someone had printed, “Are these the true Biblical Jews? Jeremiah 14:2, Rev. 29:3:9″ and “Imposters!!”

    Other posters had bizarre stuff about Chrysler, Masons, Aboriginals (Native Indians), Blacks as slaves and depictions of prehistoric man. Another had the theme of “Coming Soon: World War III” with a quote from Revelations 11:14.

    That’s all I know.

  64. 64Phil on Oct 27, 2009 at 8:08 pm:

    I found it refreshingly consistent saying that Jesus was black and Judah gave rise to the Negros.
    However, there’s a little snag:
    The New Testament says that Jesus had no earthly father.

  65. 65Archonix on Oct 28, 2009 at 3:00 am:

    When it comes to British Israelism (the anglo-israelism someone mentioned above) at least they have the decency to acknowledge that modern jews are the descendents of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin.

  66. 66r4 ds games on Oct 28, 2009 at 4:27 am:

    Thanx for the valuable information. I can’t remember how they explained why Jews think it’s okay to call themselves Jews or Israelites and why they’re wrong. keep posting. Will be visiting back soon.

  67. 67Starless on Oct 28, 2009 at 5:34 am:

    Scott: anthoropologists have identified early Europeans, and they were…(by strict racial identification) black

    By strict racial definition, early everyone was black.

    Scott: Also, methinks the missile is a Soviet one because Fidel or Hugo would be the ones to launch it…not Vladamir. Just sayin’.

    The missile in the image says “USSR” on the side. There are two problems with that: firstly, if it was supposed to be a depiction of a real Soviet missile, it would say “CCCP” not “USSR”, and secondly, it looks more like an MX than anything in the Soviet ICBM arsenal (except maybe an SS-19). IOW, whoever created that image doesn’t know shit about ICBMs.

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  69. 69common_sense on Oct 28, 2009 at 9:52 am:

    Ken, see Phoenixgirl’s post beneath yours for a second (sort of) of my muslim connection

    Phoenixgirl, I think the younger one next to him ALSO looks a little muzzy-ish

  70. 70Starless on Oct 28, 2009 at 11:55 am:

    common_sense: Phoenixgirl, I think the younger one next to him ALSO looks a little muzzy-ish

    If the guy on the end looks Moslem, then this guy does too. Is it the brown skin? The beard?

  71. 71Ken on Oct 28, 2009 at 4:11 pm:

    common_sense: Ken, see Phoenixgirl’s post beneath yours for a second (sort of) of my muslim connectionPhoenixgirl, I think the younger one next to him ALSO looks a little muzzy-ish

    Are you kidding me? He “looks” like a Muslim because he has a beard? Well, maybe he is Middle Eastern in origin..but, y’know, I don’t think too many Muslims read the Old Testament or wear an improvised tallit. They’re obviously not Muslims.

  72. 72Throbert McGee on Oct 28, 2009 at 5:03 pm:

    Ken: I don’t think too many Muslims read the Old Testament or wear an improvised tallit. They’re obviously not Muslims.

    I think Ken is basically correct here, although it’s possible that some of these guys have flirted with Islam and/or been involved with the pseudo-Muslims of NoI.

  73. 73Timothy (TRiG) on Oct 28, 2009 at 5:23 pm:

    There are many sects and cults out there…and as you noticed, their theology may not be rational.

    Is anyone’s?

    TRiG

  74. 74Ringo the Gringo on Oct 28, 2009 at 6:39 pm:

    They look straight out of a bad spaghetti western if you ask me.

  75. 75Josephine on Oct 28, 2009 at 9:02 pm:

    Re. #66: I’m not sure if you were being sarcastic? It happened four months ago and I was hurrying to get to a meeting that was more important to me than my chance encounter with this fringe religious group.

    At any rate, I’ve found the email I sent to a friend. This is part of it:

    I passed by a group of black men who called themselves something like ‘the real Israelites’.

    I saw their sign showing Jesus with devil’s horns and stopped in my tracks!

    I asked one guy, “Aren’t the Jews the 12 tribes?” and he explained that, “They’re Jewish but they’re not Jews because the definition of Jewish is trying to be a Jew.”

    They asked me a question about the picture and Jesus and I said, “He wasn’t a white man” and they liked that. I can’t remember what they said when I said Jesus was Jewish. Back to the Jews does not equal Jewish thing, I think…

    I asked about my people, the Irish. One guy said they might be in the line of Esau (IIRC, he had red hair).

    Now that you know how nonsensical their answer was, perhaps it will be easier to understand why I didn’t remember it clearly.

  76. 76Kini on Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 pm:

    Maybe some clinic was giving away free medical marijuana samples?

  77. 77Starless on Oct 29, 2009 at 6:51 am:

    Timothy (TRiG): Is anyone’s?

    I’d liken these guys to a platypus. You could look at some animals and wonder how in the hell they got put together, but with a platypus at some point you find yourself asking, “WTF? A duck bill? A beaver tail? It lays eggs? Who came up with this one and why?” So with most religious sects, you can make the argument that they’re not rational, but these guys (black Jews, bizzaro Muslims, whatever the hell they are) don’t make sense even within an irrational religious context.

  78. 78Guy Average on Oct 29, 2009 at 10:37 am:

    It would be the perfect front group for an Islamic Sleeper Cell. They could openly claim credit for any terrorist action and The Press would announce the blame to be on Christian Radical Right-Wingers. the use of al-Taqiyya would make it acceptable in Islam.

  79. 79Ken on Oct 29, 2009 at 4:46 pm:

    but with a platypus at some point you find yourself asking, “WTF? A duck bill? A beaver tail? It lays eggs? Who came up with this one and why?”

    Starless is my new favorite person on Zombietime. End of story.

  80. 80phoenixgirl on Oct 29, 2009 at 7:58 pm:

    ken…impovrished tallit? more like some kind of home made arts and crafts cover up……

    starless…..the beard at the one on the end is consistent with a muslim male….in my opinion, he looks like a muslim, the guy in your link looks like a cuban terrorist who has killed his own people, his beard is not as neatly kept the kid in the guy in zombies picture…

  81. 81stuiec on Oct 29, 2009 at 8:51 pm:

    Starless:
    I’d liken these guys to a platypus. You could look at some animals and wonder how in the hell they got put together, but with a platypus at some point you find yourself asking, “WTF? A duck bill? A beaver tail? It lays eggs? Who came up with this one and why?” So with most religious sects, you can make the argument that they’re not rational, but these guys (black Jews, bizzaro Muslims, whatever the hell they are) don’t make sense even within an irrational religious context.

    Platypuses are perfectly understandable. God left the remote where one of His toddlers could reach it.

  82. 82common_sense on Oct 29, 2009 at 10:53 pm:

    #69 Starless: nope, if it was those attributes, I would have said so
    (and I think Alphonso Jackson (in cabinet (HUD) of Bush) woulda been a terrorist if that were all it took)

    I don’t see the facial structure of hispanics, meztizos or mulattos
    I see middle eastern

    but that’s only my opinion, I am no anthropologist
    and it’s only a couple of the subjects in the photo

  83. 83Anonymous on Oct 29, 2009 at 11:29 pm:

    69Starless
    70Ken
    81common_sense

    People forget their history. One of the main reasons that modern Spaniards generally look the way they do (that is, dark hair, dark piercing eyes, angular features) is because they are part Arab. Remember that the Arabs conquered most of the Iberian peninsula starting in the 8th century, and despite the later revisionist history (they were oh-so-tolerant and better than the Catholics, etc.) the harsh reality was that one of their methods of “conquering” was to mass rape all native Spanish women under their control, as a form of ethnic cleansing, to permanently intermingle the bloodlines. (Admittedly, this has always been a standard post-invasion tactic in the pre-modern era). Only a few areas of northern Spain managed to avoid this decades-long rape and forced-marriage campaign. By the time the Arabs were driven out in 1492, a substantial percentage of “Spaniards” themselves had at least one Arab ancestor.

    And since Spain subsequently went on to colonize half the globe, all the people whom we nowadays call “Hispanic” are approximately half Spanish and half Native American (”mestizos” as they’re called in Mexico). And if most Hispanics in the Americas are partly of Spanish heritage…that means they’re part Arab as well.

    So, the guy on the right may self-identify as ethnically Hispanic, but when he shaves his beard like a jihadi…hell, he looks just like his great-great-great-great-great-great-(etc.)-grandaddy sweeping across Andalusia with a scimitar.

  84. 84CattusMagnus on Oct 29, 2009 at 11:45 pm:

    Anybody else remember this? It seems that this sort of thing goes on in prominent Chicago churches as well as the streets of Berkeley. I wonder if Obama, having listened to and been spiritually advised by Wright for 20-some years, believes that Jesus was a black man as well. And the missile in the pictures above certainly could be construed as the “chickens coming home to roost.” Although the dear reverend said all this while being considerably better dressed.

  85. 85Starless on Oct 30, 2009 at 5:45 am:

    Ken: Starless is my new favorite person on Zombietime. End of story.

    Heh. To be fair, and for purposes of full disclosure, I actually stole that one from an old Robin Williams bit. Not long after he’d gotten off the coke. IOW, when he was still funny.

    phoenixgirl: starless…..the beard at the one on the end is consistent with a muslim male….

    Here’s a pic of Fidel when his beard was “consistent with a muslim male”, though it’s not a straight on shot.

    common_sense: I don’t see the facial structure of hispanics, meztizos or mulattos
    I see middle eastern

    Exactly. Look at Fidel and tell me the facial structure isn’t similar.

    Anonymous: People forget their history.

    I’ve received six (long) years of Spanish language training and in the process I picked up a little something about Spanish etymology. So, yeah, I do recall some history. While the Moorish genetic expansion through Europe was impressive, IMO it can’t compare to the singular seed-spreading achievements of Eric the Red.

  86. 86Doctor Jeff on Oct 30, 2009 at 6:09 am:

    they are just a nutsy, fringe group of discontents, easily tuned out and ignored. I think they take a few separate issues and use the religeous ideas to give them some authenticity and interest; but really, not a very cohesive or coherent message. The whole group borders on frank paranoid schizophrenic behavior! I guess it give some people something to do if nothing else.

  87. 87buzzsawmonkey on Oct 30, 2009 at 7:56 am:

    stuiec: Platypuses are perfectly understandable. God left the remote where one of His toddlers could reach it.

    G-d created evolution, and sent the platypus the bill.

  88. 88stuiec on Oct 30, 2009 at 10:35 am:

    CattusMagnus: I wonder if Obama, having listened to and been spiritually advised by Wright for 20-some years, believes that Jesus was a black man as well.

    I frankly doubt that Obama gives Jesus a second’s thought, except when he’s looking for ways to make a speech connect to a Christian audience. Just like he has no use for the Old Testament except when he wants to convince an audience of Jewish clergy that somehow Torah says that the temporal government is “God’s partner in life and death.”

  89. 89Starless on Oct 30, 2009 at 11:14 am:

    buzzsawmonkey:
    G-d created evolution, and sent the platypus the bill.

    Wah-wah-waaaaaaaah….

    stuiec: I frankly doubt that Obama gives Jesus a second’s thought, except when he’s looking in the mirror

    FIFY

    stuiec: “God’s partner in life and death.”

    Or possibly God’s life partner.

  90. 90beckaholic on Oct 30, 2009 at 12:20 pm:

    Anonymous:

    Yes, and you can find place names in the Southwest that have Arabic roots, and even architecture (blue rimmed doors and windows to keep out the “evil-eye”, etc) I always thought it was interesting, though, that in Mexico proper, the seriously rich tend to be blond and blue-eyed. Where did that come from? Like the social strata has maintained itself for centuries? But there are still Northern New Mexico villages where the residents were so isolated into the 20th century that they still had red hair and light eyes from their red-haired/light eyed conquistador ancestors. It’s all interesting.

  91. 91Starless on Oct 30, 2009 at 1:11 pm:

    beckaholic: I always thought it was interesting, though, that in Mexico proper, the seriously rich tend to be blond and blue-eyed. Where did that come from?

    If you’re more pale, you’re assumed to be of a higher class (i.e. the old assumption that you don’t have to work outside for a living). Racism/classism in Latin America is often based on increments of skin tone, not on the black/white dichotomy of the U.S. The same sort of thing occurs in Asia.

  92. 92Papa Ray on Oct 30, 2009 at 2:30 pm:

    Very entertaining. While watching one of the linked videos (the one with the Marine) it finally came out. The deranged black while screaming at the girl with the Marine, says “She ben tat how great America is”…
    And then goes on to tell us exactly how America is not great.

    That slip boils it all down to where we can see that this group is in the same small (but still too big) segment of America that Obama and his ilk grew into what they are today. Pure and simple America haters from various Marxist, Commie and extreme Socialists, very extreme.

    The circle is almost complete, its time for a revolution.

    Papa Ray
    Central Texas

    The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed – where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.
    2009 Judge Alex Kozinski

  93. 93CattusMagnus on Oct 30, 2009 at 2:33 pm:

    stuiec: I frankly doubt that Obama gives Jesus a second’s thought, except when he’s looking for ways to make a speech connect to a Christian audience. Just like he has no use for the Old Testament except when he wants to convince an audience of Jewish clergy that somehow Torah says that the temporal government is “God’s partner in life and death.”

    Yes, I suppose you’re right. But I really don’t think the individuals in these picture really care all that much about Jesus either. I think they’re just peddling Black Liberation Theology.

  94. 94Anne's omnibus on Oct 31, 2009 at 6:36 am:

    According to Pravda, America is set to attack Russia (why do all the screwed-up countries – which is sadly most of them – harbour this paranoid belief that the US wants to invade them?), and therefore a preventive nuclear strike may be necessary.

    And back off the platypus. It was the original – all the other animals stole from it.

  95. 95Starless on Oct 31, 2009 at 12:24 pm:

    According to Pravda, America is set to attack Russia (why do all the screwed-up countries – which is sadly most of them – harbour this paranoid belief that the US wants to invade them?), and therefore a preventive nuclear strike may be necessary.

    Pravda’s just telling it the way it always has.

    And back off the platypus. It was the original – all the other animals stole from it.

    I’ve got nothing against the platypus, it’s just very confusing.

  96. 96Maria on Nov 1, 2009 at 8:12 pm:

    Starless, sorry for the delay in my reply. To clarify, goodness gracious no. My TV episode idea has nothing to do with the actual morality of any of these groups what so ever. Nor was I suggesting moral equivalency.

    That said, I do find all three groups to be nutty in their own way; what with their leaps of faith, logical shortcuts and ramrod conviction. There’s different worlds of nutty, you got your creamy peanut butter, your almond milk and then there’s rusted ones that go on the ends of bolts. If you combine them you get a breakfast cereal a transformer would love.

    I simply found the thought of all three debating with the hosts of the View ( a show I frankly think is nutty in it’s own way) to be the top of hilarity, at least that day I posted.

  97. 97Starless on Nov 2, 2009 at 7:33 am:

    Maria: I simply found the thought of all three debating with the hosts of the View ( a show I frankly think is nutty in it’s own way) to be the top of hilarity, at least that day I posted.

    LOL. Okay. The only correction I’d make would be to replace “hosts of the View” with “screeching yenta harridans”.

    BTW, Whoopi Goldberg should never, ever, until the day she dies, be allowed to forget her “rape-rape” comment.

  98. 98FatSlice on Nov 9, 2009 at 3:37 pm:

    I can tell you exactly what that is. It is a new movement of Oakland’s own Bey created Your Black Muslim Bakery version of Nation of Islam. While Bey was alive and preaching on TV in Oakland he often read from both the Bible and the Koran. He read from the Bible to talk about how wrong it was, and from the Koran to talk about how right it was. But he always use the phrases “so called negroes,” “so called Hatians,” etc to describe any group of “The true race.” Bey hated white people — they are all the devil not just this “jesus” that they conjured. Bey and his followers believed and still teach that the white races are the result of a science experiment gone wrong. “The Nation of Islam teaches a black separatist doctrine. According to its beliefs, blacks were the original people on the Earth but had been tricked out of their power, conquered and oppressed by the Caucasian people via a global system of white supremacy. According to NOI doctrine, the white race was produced through a series of genetic breeding experiments conducted by a bigheaded scientist known as “Dr. Yakub.”

    Hate for white people is alive and well in America. And for the record, yes, black people can be racists.

  99. 99THEBERKELELEYISRAELITES on Nov 12, 2009 at 4:52 am:

    YOU STUPID IDIOTS U KEEP TAKIN PICTURES AN PUTTING UP BULLSHIT BLOGS OF US THE MOST HIGH WILL JUDGE YOU & HE HATES AMERICA. AMERICA DOESN’T FOLLOW ANY OF THE LAWS IN THE BIBLE YOU. AMOS 9:8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD. DAMN PEONS. IF U READ THE BIBLE IT TELLS U THAT JESUS IS BLACK JEREMIAH 14:2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.

    HEBREWS 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord (the ONE WHO YOU IGNORANTLY CALL JESUS CHRIST) sprang out of Judah(WHAT COLOR DID THE BIBLE SAY JUDAH WAS? IT DIDN’T SAY OLIVE.); of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

    REVELATION 1:13-15 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

    14 His head and his hairs were white like wool(HIS HAIR WAS WHITE IN COLOR & WOOLLY IN TEXTURE), as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

    15 And his feet like unto fine brass(BRASS IN BROWN), as if they burned(WHAT HAPPENS WHEN U BURN SOMETHING MEANING THE BY PRODUCT OF BURNING ITS BLACK IN TODAY’S TERMS) in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. I CHALLENGE ANY OF YOU TO FIND ME A SCRIPTURE IN THE BIBLE WHERE IT SAYS JESUS WAS OLIVE?

  100. 100EMERGEZ319 on Nov 12, 2009 at 3:40 pm:

    JOEL3:1, 3, 6 “cast lots for my people…sold a girl for wine” the Africans (inhabitants of Tyre and
    Zidon) and Arabs sold us to Esau for WINE. NO FORGIVENESS FOR AFRICANS AND ARABS! ALL
    NATIONS WERE AND STILL ARE ENVIOUS THAT ISRAEL IS THE CHOSEN NATION OF THE MOST
    HIGH. “the children of Judah and…Jerusalem have you sold unto the Grecians” Judah, Benjamin,
    and Levi were sold to the Greeks. All so-called “Whites” originate from the Grks. The Grks were
    the first “White” empire. We migrated to down after 70 A.D. when Jerusalem was destroyed.

  101. 101CattusMagnus on Nov 13, 2009 at 6:31 pm:

    #98 THEBEREKELEYISRAELITES

    Interesting post. However, in my bible, Jeremiah 14:2 says, “Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish, they sit in black upon the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.” It sure sounds as if black is the color of their dress and not the color of their skin. But of course, this is from the American Standard Bible which I suppose you would probably view as manipulated or something. Anyhoo, peace be with you.

  102. 102THEBERKELELEYISRAELITES on Nov 17, 2009 at 1:58 pm:

    CattusMagnus: #98 THEBEREKELEYISRAELITESInteresting post.However, in my bible, Jeremiah 14:2 says, “Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish, they sit in black upon the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.”It sure sounds as if black is the color of their dress and not the color of their skin.But of course, this is from the American Standard Bible which I suppose you would probably view as manipulated or something.Anyhoo, peace be with you.

    well when you read it in hebrew the tanach the word there is QADAR which literally means to be dark as in skin tone the hebrew word for the color black is shachar I use the KJV

  103. 103Kenneth on Nov 18, 2009 at 8:17 pm:

    These nutjobs are from an extremist sub-sect of the Hebrew Israelites, an African-American cult based on black Jesus replacement theology.

    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4D5B105C57F74A6C
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites

  104. 104Timothy Wright on Dec 2, 2009 at 4:37 pm:

    These are all White People pretending to be Black and Mexican to discredit their beliefs.

  105. 105Kevin on Dec 7, 2009 at 7:15 am:

    I’ve met these guys in Phila and New York. In 1999 they were telling me that Jesus (the black one) will come back in the year 2000. Then blacks would rule the world for 1000 years and we (white people) would be their slaves. After 1000 years, they would kill us all. They’re basically a black version of the KKK.

  106. 106rumcrook® on Dec 16, 2009 at 8:35 am:

    I think what it means is these creatures have decided to live failed lives and blame it on someone else.

  107. 107Dragoman on Dec 26, 2009 at 3:00 pm:

    Hi Zombie. I just saw four of these goofballs in downtown Jackson, Mississippi in front of the Governor’s Mansion. Two were in blue tunics, and one wearing red was “preaching.” He was being videotaped by a fourth man, who was tunic-less. They had the same set-up as in your photos: the Twelve Tribes of Israel placard, and the “Jesus is a Negro/Jesus es Negro” horned Christ poster, which was being thumped angrily by one of the blue men as the “preacher” made his points.

    They were truly voices crying in the wilderness, as there’s no one to hear them in downtown Jackson on a Saturday afternoon. And I believe Governor Barbour is visting relatives in Yazoo City.

    Anyway, just wanted to report my sighting. I enjoy your site.

  108. 108Dragoman on Dec 26, 2009 at 3:04 pm:

    Hi Zombie. I just saw four of these goofballs in downtown Jackson, Mississippi in front of the Governor’s Mansion. Two were in blue tunics, and one wearing red was “preaching.” He was being videotaped by a fourth man, who was tunic-less. They had the same set-up as in your photos: the Twelve Tribes of Israel placard, and the “Jesus is a Negro/Jesus es Negro” horned Christ poster, which was being thumped angrily by one of the blue men as the “preacher” made his points.

    They were truly voices crying in the wilderness, as there’s no one to hear them in downtown Jackson on a Saturday afternoon. And I believe Governor Barbour is visiting relatives in Yazoo City.

    Anyway, just wanted to report my sighting. I enjoy your site.

  109. 109papa true israelite on Feb 22, 2010 at 12:54 pm:

    you devils got a lot to fuckin pay for. You are trying to make a mockery of the most high’s true people. Read your fuckin bible you red devil. It tell you the destruction for you and your devil race. in revalations it say he that leadith into captivity shall go into captivity and he that killeth by the sword shall die by the sword. So that means your fuckin devil race is doomed you bitch

  110. 110benjamin f j on Sep 11, 2010 at 2:21 pm:

    wow…. i have a higher power .. id be right next to them in my works clothes … because i feel alot of people are mistreated in this world….. controlling ur mind is controlling ur life

  111. 111شات كتابي on Sep 27, 2010 at 11:28 am:

    Ken, OT from the previous discussion: IIRC, Charlie Sheen wrote up some fictional intellectually masturbatory bit about him discussing 9/11 Trutherism with Obama. The guy’s a nut and has sullied the fine work he did in the Hot Shots movies. Fluffy Bunny Feet, indeed.

  112. 112Rob Crawford on Dec 26, 2010 at 6:05 pm:

    you devils got a lot to fuckin pay for.

    Damn! You’ve seen my credit card statement!

    Get over yourself, you stupid bigot.

  113. 113anon on Dec 30, 2010 at 7:30 am:

    I saw these guys threatening genocide against jews, homosexuals and white people in Seattle. They typically met outside the Macys at Westlake on Saturday. One of them wore a purple tunic with a star of david on it. The group was made up of blacks and middle-eastern muslims. They filmed everything and tried to intimidate anyone that filmed them.

    Their posters included the “devil jesus” as well as a picture of a UFO blowing up the white house.

    These guys are offensive, racist, and ready for violence.

    One of the members told me that they had camps set up in the United States and Canada where they trained people to kill white people.

  114. 114jay cook on Jan 19, 2011 at 9:35 am:

    First of all…so called white people are not Jews…..and every time Hebrew Israelites bring out the truth,so called white people discredit it….thats why they have to be put to death…..you and your people killed millions of so called negroes and native americans…and you still have an extreme hatred for The children of the Most High.

  115. 115jay cook on Jan 19, 2011 at 9:37 am:

    And none of the Hebew Israelite camps have muslim in them…thats another reason yo have to be put to deaTH BECAUSE YOU ARE EXTREME LIERS AND NEER CAN TELL THE TRUTH.

  116. 116Chis on Apr 15, 2012 at 1:09 am:

    Whats funny is that Jesus still lives and is of no race. But when he was on earth he was a Jew and therefor NOT BLACK AND NOT WHITE. He had a middle eastern look. And btw who cares what race he was? Is it about that? Nope. These crazy black guys think that when they come to heaven they will receive blessings for guessing the true race of the Lord? Hahah.. thats so funny. “Hey guys you were the ones that answered the quiz question: what is the race of jesus” correct! :) Now you will be blessed and the others will be thrown in the hell fire ” … come on .. get a life. Start thinking about what is truly important: following Jesus. So what some people want to portrait Jesus as white? If you know that is incorrect (which is is) then so be it. No need to take action unless you simply cant stand the thought that some white people think jesus is white. But is it important? Nope.

  117. 117Chis on Apr 15, 2012 at 1:18 am:

    Do these black guys actually know that Black people invented slavery? Whites were the last to start enslaving others. We learned from the Arabs and the Arabs learned from the blacks. Thats how things work. Why did jews have concentrationcamps in Palestine? Because they learned from the Germans. Blacks today enslave each other btw. So why are whites the devil? The Whites slavery is very short lived compared to others. Africans had slaves before and after whites did it. Now they still do. So Whites have been slave owners and have dealt with the matter of abolishment within a few hundred years. That is amazingly fast if you know that Arab Islamists have spread slavery for 1400 years now and still do today! Thanks to the whites there is no official slavery by law in the Arab world. It was the Whites in Europe that pressured the last remaining Arab countries to abolish slave trading from their laws. So yes, whites have been terrible slave traders, but they have bettered their lives and are fighting slavery for many years now. Why can’t these black religeous freaks see that? Go to africa my friends, and see the situation in Sudan. Ask the southerners there if they know about slavery. Ask them.

  118. 118Nikkers Niggas on Apr 15, 2012 at 4:11 am:

    Niggers care the new racists. The only one that gets discriminated is the working white man.

  119. 119Wouter on Apr 15, 2012 at 1:01 pm:

    There is no cohesive world view here. You make the mistake of trying to find reason in a group that is obviously completely bonkers.

  120. 120me on Jul 16, 2012 at 5:34 pm:

    who wrote this is so dumb go back and listen again to what the bro are saying.
    the europeans changed the names of indeginous peoples ,q does that mean there young nations
    the bible tells you the records of our forefathers black and white chimese etc
    the guy with the horns is not christ so you can understand its a devil called cesra bosera
    you cant abolish slavery without giving back wat u took ,ie land riches and slave labour ie retribution

  121. 121me on Jul 16, 2012 at 5:45 pm:

    Nikkers Niggas: Niggers care the new racists. The only one that gets discriminated is the working white man.

    there goes another dumb ass IT starts with n word and finishes with a load a crapM U WANNA BE A NIGGER THATS WAT YOUR ABOUT

  122. 122me on Jul 16, 2012 at 5:52 pm:

    YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IN A NUT SHELL. GOD IS ABOUT MAKING TRUE YSRAEL A PRAISE IN THE EARTH READ ISIAH 14CH THEN READ JOEL 3CH ALL YE WHO LOVE TRUTH.WAT SOME PEOPLE MUST LEARN THE GOD OF YSRAEL RUNS THE SHOW. NOT U EMOTIONS SEEK YE OUT OF THE BOOK AND READ

  123. 123me on Jul 16, 2012 at 5:59 pm:

    JESUS WAS OLIVE SKIN THEY SAY .WELL OLIVES ARE DARK BROWN OR GREEN SAY NO MORE.

  124. 124me on Jul 16, 2012 at 6:29 pm:

    IChis on Apr 15, 2012 at 1:18 am:
    WAT YOU GOT TO REALIZE IS THE TRANS ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE IS PRODICTED IN THE BIBLE DUET 28 VER 68.
    LUKE CH 21 VER 24.THEN READ JOEL CH3 AND JAMES 1 VER 1.YOU RIGHT BLACKS ENSLAVED US FIRST THE EYGPTIANS,THEN THE BABYLONIANS ETIHOPIANS, THE PERSIANS AND THE MEDES THE ASSYRIANS THEN THE GREEKS, AND THEN THE ROMANS ,THEN TRANS ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE WHICH ALL NATIONS TOOK PART AND STOOD BY FOR 400 YRS, AND WERE STILL IN SLAVERY NOW .EUROPE IS NOT OUR HOME OUR LAWS OR CONSTITUTION OR OUR LAND OF HERITAGE .CAPTIVITY IS WAT GOT US HERE COS OUR FOREFATHERS BROKE THE LAWS GODS CONVENET WITH ISRAEL. BY THE WAY ISRAEL IS A PEOPLE NOT A LAND.AND THE SO CALL LATINOS RED INDIANS PORTORICANS NEGROES SEMINOL INDIANS MAKE UP THE 12 TRIBES \ND THATS A FACT THATS WHY WERE HATED DISCRIMINATED ROBBED AND SPOILED AND HIDDEN IN PRISON HOUSES PEACE ONE LOVE

  125. 125Lamad on Jan 29, 2013 at 8:23 pm:

    Everything the brothers are saying is on point…that image is not biblical the bible says…

    King James Version
    Rev.1 Verses 13 to 15
    [13] And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
    [14] His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
    [15] And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

    The man who the world ignorantly calls Jesus Christ had white woolly hair and feet the color of burnt brass!!!
    Look at the picture in contrast to that scripture…the total opposite…that is deception “The devil” means… “The deceiver”… That person on the picture is Cesare Borgia, duke of Valentinois and Romagna (1476-1507); he was the son of Pope Alexander VI. He was born at Rome while his father was cardinal, and on the latter’s elevation to the papacy (1492) he was created archbishop of Valencia, and a year later cardinal. They painted him to be the new image of Christ. That’s what they are saying…

    Proverbs 14:5: “A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.”

    They are telling the truth boldly you so-called white people are accustom to a pacifist, effeminate ,bootlicking martin Luther king tell you smooth words type niggas even martin Lucifer king worshiped that false image

    John.7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

    Those brothers believe as the scriptures say… the problem is the majority of you people believe in lies,
    Vanities and what the Fool (school) system perpetuates.

    Jeremiah 16[19] O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

    We know the truth… that the-called Negros, Latinos, and Native Americans are descendants of the Israelites of the bible, and we don’t have that slave mentality to just believe and except whatever bull shit you so-called white people postulate as the truth, we Hebrew Israelites do research unlike you…

    2Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    John 8:32: “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

    We know that the Israelites according to prophecy are the people on their signs the so-called Negros, Latinos and Native Americans, the curses that the Most High put on the Israelites for not keeping the laws in Deuteronomy 28th chapter 15-68 prove it…
    First I’m going to prove the Negroes are Israelites with 2 scriptures that don’t fit the imposter Jewish community, the suffix meaning pertaining to because they are khazars who converted to a religion in 740 AD. To be an Israelite you have to be born one it’s a nationality not a religion. Those so-called Jews never experienced a holocaust a real holocaust was the transatlantic slave trade where over 100 million so-called Negros died, and the genocide of over 77 million so-called native Americans and the theft of their land that you devils (so-called white people) proudly walk on and celebrate 4th of July and Thanksgiving and make nigger jokes at the table. 6 million so-called Jews is a joke comparison, when the holocaust never happened it was one big act of deception to implant those imposters in our ancestral homeland. I can go on and on but to get to the point…

    Deuteronomy 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
    The word “Egypt” means bondage, this verse prophesied of the Israelites coming to America on cargo slave ships. The Native Indians that were already here were also taken to Spain on ships and other parts of Europe as slaves. This scripture also prophesied the Israelites being “sold unto their enemies for bondmen and bondwomen” in one of many slave markets as mentioned in verse 68, no man shall buy you means no man will save us .

    Deuteronomy 28:48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

    This is a prophecy of the Israelites serving captivity and being totally dependent on their enemies for everything. Look at the “yoke of iron” that the Israelites (so-called Negroes) were forced to wear upon their necks during slavery.
    Now I’m going to prove the so called Native Americans…

    Deuteronomy 28:31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.

    This is a prophecy of the cattle population being practically wiped out by the European settlers.

    Deuteronomy 28:32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long: and [there shall be] no might in thine hand.

    Prophecies of our children being taken from us and mis-educated, in public and boarding schools where they taught us to be assimilationists and forget who we are and put the most high out of our mind or the last priority, and the first priority so-called making it in the white man’s society, to quote the white man “kill the Indian save the man”.

    Deuteronomy 28:37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword; among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.

    A proverb is a name identifying you with your slave owner such as when Daniel was renamed “Belteshazar” in Daniel 1:7 A byword is referring to us being called outside of our national name and given a false label/nationality i.e. ” Gentiles, Negroes, Blacks, African Americans, Hispanics, Latinos and Native Indians “.

    Deuteronomy 28:50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:

    This occurred during the conquest of the Americas when explorers such as Ponce De Leon, Columbus, Amerigo Vespucci, Pizarro and Hernan Cortez came here between the 1400 -1500′s.

    Deuteronomy 28:61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.

    Prophecies of AIDS, CANCER, DIABETES and all kinds of diseases infecting our communities at an alarming rate. During the 1400’s the smallpox disease almost wiped out the indigenous population.

    By now it should be crystal clear who the real Israelites are not the imposter Israelis in the Jewish state of Israel. A Nazi propagandist said” if you tell people a lie long enough they will believe it” he was right that’s what they do and set up the ADL , you can even get locked up for questioning the holocaust .

    The next topic is America and you so-called white peoples judgment…You think just because you got some docile pacified coons walking around with Stockholm syndrome talking about forget about the past that the Most High is cool with that? 2 major wicked acts were slavery of the Negroes and the genocide of the indigenous people of America lets see if the most highs judgment is let bygones be bygones.

    Exodus 21:16 And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

    Numbers 35:33 So ye shall not pollute the land wherein ye are: for blood it defileth the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it.

    Revelations 13
    [9] If any man have an ear, let him hear.
    [10] He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

    You lead us into captivity, the transatlantic slave trade, and you killed the Native Americans with the sword (instrument of death) genocide so you got judgment coming to you.

    Proverbs 16:5 Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

    Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

    2Thessalonians 1:6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

    Colossians 3:25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

    Isaiah 3:11 Woe unto the wicked! it shall be ill with him: for the reward of his hands shall be given him.

    James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

    So you will pay for what your forefathers did without mercy because you showed the so-called Negros, Latinos, and Native Americans no mercy…

    Isaiah 14
    [21] Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
    [22] For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

    Isaiah 14
    [1] For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
    [2] And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

    So the scripture is saying in our Kingdome you non Israelite nation will be our slaves …

    Babylon in the bible is talking about America, and the Most High is going to judge America…every nation before America had its rise and fall… Now America is falling never to rise up again… and the Most high is going to set up his Kingdome in righteousness not the total opposite of righteousness which America runs on homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, transgression of the biblical laws, the worship of the woman(feminism aka equal rights), total folly(pride being cardinal) , and witchcraft ( rebellion against the laws of the bible aka “do as thou wilt”)…that’s why the sign they had up said “America’s destruction is at hand!” the Most High is going to destroy America worse than he did Sodom and in the time of Noah, he will destroy America with a flood of fire this time that will rain out the sky…that is why there was an Intercontinental ballistic missile on the sign… all this is prophesy in the bible… which you so-called white people and 2/3 of the nation of Israel are to proud and foolish to see…

    Amos.9:8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.

    Job.21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.

    The wicked is talking about you white people…and other non-Israelite nations…

    Psalms 7:13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors.

    The instruments of death (sword is the I.C.B.M’s) they are the Most Highs arrows…

    Isaiah 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

    A smith makes weapons not a sword of old time but these smiths where the German scientists that created the weapons of mass destruction (atom bombs, nuclear bombs, etc.)

    Isaiah 2:12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

    Obadiah 1
    [3] The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
    [4] Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

    Revelations 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

    The Edomites which is the biblical name for the Caucasians are the proudest people on the face of the earth…their philosophy in a few words is “ do as thou wilt”… and threw the judgment of the Most High they shall be brought low to the base people that they are…slavery, suffering, and death is their future.. Double what we went through at the hands of the so-called white man, and the non-Israelite nations…

    Job 14:5 Seeing his days are determined, the number of his months are with thee, thou hast appointed his bounds that he cannot pass;

    The so-called white man’s days are numbered…
    2Peter 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
    America will be another example like Sodom of what happens if you don’t live godly…
    Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

    Zechariah 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

    Job.20:9 The eye also which saw him shall see him no more; neither shall his place any more behold him.

    The question you have to ask yourself is what burns like an oven, what disintegrates flesh, eyes and tongue out of your mouth? Watch the movie Terminator, when Sarah Connors had the vision of basically the future of America… see had seen a mushroom cloud and a wave of fire the destroyed everything in its path that turned the people it touched into ashes and dust…that is the Most Highs judgment on Edom and the virgin daughter of Babylon …

    Revelations 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    The brothers that be out there are keeping the lords patience meaning the gospel they are reading the bible, gathering the elect of the nation of Israel, telling the non-Israelites their judgment, and prophesizing the downfall of the virgin daughter of Babylon… so they are covered by the Most High from this day of judgment that is eminently coming upon the world…

    Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

    This scripture is to you skeptics who don’t believe or can’t conceive this happening… you think how can some niggers, spics, and savage Indians be the people of the most high, how can anything bad ever happen to America? Well because you don’t believe that’s not going to stop it from happening …thus saith the lord…. All praises to Yahawah bahasham Yahawashi, double honors to the elders of GMS, and Shalawam to the ahchyam, stay in the spirit, soon we won’t have to look at these devils (so-called white people) or America no more…

  126. 126dan on May 23, 2013 at 9:28 am:

    The only clues we have about the race of Jesus are from the bible. First, Noah was white…his hair was white as wool and his body white as snow he was like the angels and his eyes shone bright as the sun. He was so white that his father had to call on God because he thought his wife had been molested by the angels. He married a black woman and had 3 sons. Ham which means sun burned, Shem which means fame and Japheth which means fair or to be enlarged. The bible is very detailed about these 3 sons and what nations they became. Ham became the African nations as well as Canaan. Shem became the middle eastern nations and Japheth became the Greeks and Europeans. Abraham was called out of the Chaldea. He was from “Laben” Laben means white. Kind of like the syrians. Abrahams sons Issac and Jacob were specifically told by God to take a wife from Laben and not to intermarry witht eh caannanites. Abraham had a White wife named Sarah from Laben and a black concubine from Egypt. He bore children with both. His son Ishmael became the Arab nations Arab means to mix. Issac’s son Esau who was white w red hair disobeyed God and took a wife from Caanan they became the Edomites ie a small portion of the mixed Arabs. Jacob took 2 wives and 2 concubines. Leah and Rebecca were white from Laben. He took two black concubines Zillpa and Billah. The 12 tribes of Israel were from these 4 women. Ruben, Simeon, Levi, Judah Issachar, Zebulon, are all white from Leah Rachael had Joseph and Benjamin. The mixed tribes were Gad Asher, Dan and Nephtali. No one has ever suggested that Jesus was European. The only Europeans were the Romans/Greeks and everyone knows that. That picture they’re holding was a Europe artists imagination. everyone with half a brain knows Jesus was a middle eastern Jew olive skinned and probably of mixed blood since he was the savior of all men. The world was not so obsessed with race back then so mixed marriage was common. Solomon had a black wife also. The bible was FIRST to the Jew then TO THE GREEK. Not first to the black man then to the white man. Making the Gospel about race is a sin. Works of the flesh. Were specifically told not to join factions, have endless arguments ab the Torah, cause enmity strife etc. The men are angry bc of slavery. If they are the true Jews then why do they believe in Jesus? God said their ears would be stopped up and their eyes would be closed? Jusaism is not a race its a religion. Id like to see anyone prove theyre from the tribe of Judah. Im sure there were black people who were married into that tribe but the bible is clear. The black people brought to america were from the other side of africa so the chances that these people were from Judah are slim to none.

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