In recent months it has become increasingly common to see men walking around San Francisco’s Castro District completely naked. You might assume this is illegal, but no — there is no law against public nudity in San Francisco, unless that nudity also involves “lewd thoughts or acts.” (In practice, what that means is that unless you have an erection or are masturbating, it is OK to expose yourself in San Francisco.)

But the ever-escalating recent increase in public nudists spurred S.F. supervisor Scott Wiener to propose new legislation requiring naked people to sit on towels when using public facilities, and also to cover their nether regions while eating in restaurants — so that other residents won’t have to come into contact with whatever bodily excretions that might result from sitting down pants-free.

Well, as luck would have it, the more politically-minded of the public nudists had already scheduled a pro-nudity protest just on general principles, but the timing was perfect to make it into a photo op for the newly proposed towel law.

Needless to say, I was at Saturday’s protest, camera in hand.

I had originally intended to make this a lighthearted post, but the more I thought about it, the more I felt the protest merited serious analyis.

So, below, you will find discussions about the purpose of clothing, public hygiene, exhibitionism, community standards and morality — and lots of pictures of naked men. If you don’t want to see the pictures, stop reading now.

(Note: This is the X-rated version of this report; if you want to see the G-rated version, in which all the pictures are blurred out, click here.)


The protest was held in a small plaza at the intersection of Castro, 17th, and Market streets in San Francisco. While the Castro District is well-known as a sort of outdoor gay-themed tourist attraction, it is still a “real” part of the urban landscape, just like any other part of the city, with street lights and gas stations and trolley tracks and laws. Traffic streamed by as the nudists (all men) began to assemble, several of whom were carrying protest signs saying things like “Nude is not lewd” and “Get your hate off my body.”


It was cloudy and a bit chilly, but that didn’t stop about 40 or 50 men from standing around naked, and posing for the phalanx of photographers who had assembled across the tracks.


Local alternative newspaper The Bay Guardian saw a chance for a publicity stunt and produced “Butt Guardian” towels so that everyone could be in compliance with the new anti-excretion ordinance.


Bay Guardian employees handed them out to all takers; if you want one of your own they even have an online version you can print out “to soothe the heebie jeebies induced in some shrinking violets about stray hairs and other hysterical anal imaginings covering the seats of our fair city.”


The quote above got me thinking about the very purpose of clothing, something I had never really pondered until now. Humans wear clothing, obviously, to keep us warm in cold climates. But clothing has several other functions as well:

1. To protect the wearer from the elements — cold temperatures, blazing sun, wind, etc.;
2. To cover up various body parts which cultural norms have deemed taboo;
3. To advertise one’s status, role, class or position in society;
4. To prevent the transmission of potentially unsanitary excretions and fluids by enclosing the anal and genital regions.

And this is the source of the conflict: Wiener’s law merely addresses the issue of public hygiene in point 4 above — but the nudists are protesting the cultural norms in point 2. Yet no matter how successful they are in smashing cultural norms, they still can’t escape the general consensus that day-to-day urban nudity has pubic health consequences.

The nudists’ reply is that the “pubic health” argument is merely a smokescreen to justify puritanical repression. The anti-nudity advocates are being dishonest, the protesters argue; opposition to public nakedness is not based on concern about transmissible diseases, but rather on old-fashioned prudery.

While that may be true, I counter with this: The San Francisco public nudists are also being dishonest; there is indeed a sexual component to their behavior, and they are exhibitionists using politics to justify their thrill-seeking.

Want proof? Keep reading.


The naked protest originally had nothing to do with the hubbub over the new towel legislation; it was in fact basically just a launch party for the Folsom Street Fair (advertisements for which were visible all around the intersection, as seen in the photo above):

The event, which had been scheduled before Wiener’s proposal was announced, was part of the unofficial celebrations leading up to the annual Folsom Street Fair, billed as the world’s largest leather and fetish event.


Now, I didn’t cover this year’s Folsom Street Fair (held yesterday — too cold!), but I have covered it in the past, and — trust me on this — it is a free event held on city streets at which people unabashedly have sex in public. (Actually, you don’t have to trust me — you can simply click on my EXTREMELY NSFW report about the 2007 Folsom Street Fair and see the proof for yourself.)

In that report, as part of a caption for a series of photos showing a man masturbating in public, I made the following observation:

The Folsom Street Fair is primarily a festival of sexual fetishes — bondage, sado-machochism, animal fantasies, and so on — yet the pre-eminent sexual fetish at the Folsom event is the one least discussed: exhibitionism. This man, for example, is an exhibitionist, as were a great many others at the fair. Exhibitionists derive sexual pleasure from having people watch them engage in sex. You, the observer, are a participant in their sex act, whether you want to be or not. That’s the point, the source of the “thrill.” If you attend the Folsom Street Fair, to a certain extent you are knowingly agreeing to be “visually raped” and to participate in the exhibitionist sex of others, just by being there to view it. Almost always, when someone at the fair began to masturbate, a crowd would form to watch: and by so doing would voluntarily become second-hand participants in the solo sex act — just as you the viewer are doing right now.

But does the same argument apply when the exhibitionist is not actively masturbating and doesn’t even have an erection? Could he be secretly getting a thrill and involving passersby in his sexual fantasies anyway?

No, according to The Bay Guardian, which has leapt to the defense of the public nudists.

In response to a San Francisco Chronicle columnist who wrote,

If these guys were opening a trench coat and exposing themselves to bystanders in a supermarket parking lot we’d call them creeps. But if they sit on public chairs and expose themselves to bystanders, they’re defenders of free speech. Here’s some free speech – when moms and dads walk their kids to school, they don’t want to see you naked.

The Bay Guardian had this to say in reply:

Actually, I’ve often walked my daughter to school along Castro Street, and I don’t care whether people are naked or not. Neither does she. My kids are San Francisco city kids; it’s all a big Whatever. And the naked guys in the Castro, mostly middle-aged men, aren’t “exposing themselves” in the way of a sex offender who gets off on it; they don’t confront anyone, or jump in front of anyone, or try to force anyone to look at them. They aren’t fucking in the streets. They’re just walking around (and sitting down) without clothes on.

Whatever.


The Bay Guardian‘s argument basically comes down to this: If these guys aren’t parading around naked for the thrills, then they aren’t deriving any sexual pleasure from it, and thus there’s nothing wrong with what they’re doing. And that is also exactly what San Francisco’s extremely lax laws about pubic nudity say: unless you are engaging in “lewd thoughts or acts” then you can be naked in public.

But hang one one minute. It’s pretty easy to identify a “lewd act,” but how can we judge whether someone has a “lewd thought” while showing his naked body to you? Presumably, this is a legal euphemism for “getting a hard-on”: If a guy has an erection, the law presumes he is engaging in “lewd thoughts”; and (here’s the key) if he doesn’t have an erection, that’s proof that his thoughts are pure.

But there’s another way we can assess their motivations aside from measuring the engorgement levels of their penises. Look at the sign above and the sign in the first photo; both reveal that the protest was organized on a Web site called nude-in.blogspot.com. If you visit the site (mild NSFW warning), you’ll see that the protest’s Web page — and hence the protest itself — was actually masterminded by Bare Naked in Public, which according to the protest page’s own sidebar “is the most all inclusive male exhibitionist destination on the Internet.”

And if you dare to click on the VERY NSFW Bare Naked in Public home page, you will finally see the truth (and a whole lot more) revealed: San Francisco’s urban nudists are exhibitionists who derive sexual thrills from exposing themselves in public.

There. Someone had to say it.

And if that’s true, then they are indeed breaking the city’s anti-nudity ordinance because they do think “lewd thoughts” while parading around naked.


Common sense tells us the same thing. As this picture shows, the spot chosen for the nude protest is basically on a traffic island in the middle of an extremely busy intersection; trolley cars filled with commuters and tourists run immediately adjacent to the “park,” while a six-lane major traffic artery runs along the other side; and one of the city’s most crowded pedestrian streets leads right to the same intersection. Why choose that particular spot, not just for Saturday’s protest but for daily nudity year-round? The goal quite obviously is to be seen by as many people as possible. The nudists claim they just want to be left alone and be free to go about their daily lives with no clothes on. But if that were the case, they wouldn’t purposely congregate in crowded places.


La de da. Don’t pay any attention to me. I’m just standing here!


Furthermore: San Francisco is not a particularly warm town. To quote Mark Twain: “The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco.” No one in their right mind under normal circumstances would want to be naked in San Francisco. You’d have to have a reason — like being an exhibitionist.

If you truly just wanted to be naked, you can be naked at home. Or at San Francisco’s city-sanctioned nude beach (Baker Beach). If if you wanted to be naked amongst other naked people, there are several nudist colonies in the Bay Area and northern California. But no. These protesters and urban nudists don’t simply want to be naked in private or be naked around other naked people; they want to be naked around clothed people. Because that’s where the sexual thrill originates; violating a taboo. Being naked where nakedness is normal doesn’t count; eliciting shock or interest from unwitting strangers is the whole point.


To end on an upbeat note: one of the protesters set up an easel right on the corner of Castro and 17th and began painting.


His masterwork depicted UFOs landing and naked humans running out to meet their alien saviors. On the table next to his easel (directly behind him in this photo) were several books about extra-terrestrials and UFO invasions.

Now, see, this guy might legitimately claim that he is naked in public for a completely non-lewd reason — to welcome our alien brothers when they arrive. But the other protesters have revealed not just their genitals but their real motivations.

One final point: What is the feminist position on all this?


Last month I covered yet another San Francisco protest, this one called Slutwalk, where this photo was taken. And the message at that protest was “Unwanted Exposure to Scrotum Is Never OK!

Why are only feminists allowed to point this out?

184 Responses to “San Francisco’s naked protest and the ethics of public nudity”

  1. 1Perpetua on Sep 26, 2011 at 11:35 am:

    Hi Zombie,

    I love this analysis. And the Mark Twain quote had also occurred to me. San Francisco weather makes San Francisco an undesirable place to go nude, if it is just for nudisms sake. So I suspected something else was going on. Great research finding the website and proving this is about exhibitionism.

      

  2. 2Ben Franklin on Sep 26, 2011 at 12:53 pm:

    Wow, I used to be a little insecure about the size of my thing. But after seeing the photos above I have to say I feel a lot better about myself!For guys eager to expose themselves… well, they give a whole new meaning to the word “small”.

      

  3. 3Fernandez on Sep 26, 2011 at 1:14 pm:

    These guys should cover up just because they’re so unimpressive.

      

  4. 4Astra on Sep 26, 2011 at 4:26 pm:

    What is with all the cock rings? This is most certainly a sexual thing.
    Why can’t the “no scrotum” sign girl strip down? It’s always ugly old hippies and other-than-heterosexuals.

      

  5. 5Llarry on Sep 26, 2011 at 7:34 pm:

    How come nudists are always the people nobody wants to see naked?

      

  6. 6Xpltivdletd on Sep 26, 2011 at 9:53 pm:

    I first saw a towel-rule in a non-ASA resort in FL in 1979. I was unaware anyone took offense at such a thing, with or without …cause to take offense.

    Long before my first actual visit to a Nude Resort, I was already very tired of the myth of ‘freedom-from-visual-affront.’ I know of no place in the U.S.A. where anyone uses physical force or coercion to MAKE somebody look at anything (such as ‘bi-racial’ couples, gay couples, unashamed plump women, etc). I’ve heard & read whines containing the phrase “shouldn’t-have-ta-look-at” since my childhood, but have never been punished for looking away when I see something I’d rather not. Way too often, the notion of entitlement (to be pleased visually) comes bundled with that of entitlement physically to punish any source of visual displeasure. I’ve seen that often enough I’m convinced the two entitlements are siblings. RKBA! Best regards.

      

  7. 7Zach on Sep 27, 2011 at 1:59 am:

    The comment from the mom made me sad. Her kids see everything as a big Whatever. To be so jaded so young. Sex is not exciting, or mysterious or fun, but just… whatever.

      

  8. 8daniel noe on Sep 28, 2011 at 12:06 pm:

    Wouldn’t having laws against lewd thoughts make them “thought crimes”?

      

  9. 9Karl on Sep 28, 2011 at 3:41 pm:

    As a straight man, a nudist, an exhibitionist and an aspiring cocksucker myself, I have to admit that I was quite turned on by many of these photos. Although I’m not nearly as hardcore as most of these guys seem to be, the idea of being naked in a public area with thousands of people looking on does have a great deal of appeal for me. Remove the kids and the horrendous religious offenses, and I would have no problem at all with an event such as this. Minus those, I would relish the idea of walking around naked, to be able to touch other mens’ penises, to masturbate with them and most of all to engage in oral sex in a public setting. To me, that would be the ultimate total freedom.

      

  10. 10William McCullough on Sep 29, 2011 at 12:05 pm:

    Well I was playing with the thought of visiting San Francisco with my wife to celebrate our 38th wedding anniversary. I asked her what she thought about that especially with all the flap about flacid old men roaming the streets and she said, “Why should we spend all that money for me to look at all those flabby old asses when I can look at yours for free?” A very thoughtful and practical woman she – Common sense wins out once again….WM

      

  11. 11Makabit on Sep 30, 2011 at 9:33 pm:

    I have to confess that as a San Franciscan, I haven’t seen a nekkid person on the street since Pride. Which was in June. That nekkid person, I’m willing to guess, wears clothes most of the year. I’m not entirely convinced that there’s this big outbreak of nekkid people all over the Castro. When I go there, which I do fairly often, people are dressed.

    While I certainly support Weiner’s campaign to make the nekkid on our streets, however many there are, sit on towels, I have to say that this piece strikes me as mainly handwringing bullshit. Yeah, a bunch of guys got nekkid in the Castro to act out. That’s a little different from ‘unclothed pervs are littering our streets’. Believe me, after viewing all of the nekkid men in Zombie’s many, many photos, you’ve probably seen more nekkid people than you’re going to see on the street in San Francisco in a lifetime.

      

  12. 12The Mill on Oct 8, 2011 at 10:58 am:

    Why will nobody else make jokes about the fact the law is being proposed by Mr. Weiner?

      

  13. 13BACFA on Oct 18, 2011 at 11:37 am:

    Weiner’s Law…hilarious and thought provoking. Like the way you think.

      

  14. 14flevitan on Oct 20, 2011 at 8:43 am:

    When bodies are outlawed, only outlaws will show their bodies. Have burqa, will travel outside SF.

      

  15. 15Mr. Weiner on Oct 26, 2011 at 9:53 am:

    Now let’s outlaw the laws of evolutionary biology, and how they operate through ass and cock germs.

    This is just unbelievably unhygienic. At least at Harbin, people are stewing in 115 degree geothermal pools that will cook SOME of their antibiotically-selected superbugs to death.

      

  16. 16Gil Batzri on Nov 4, 2011 at 5:44 pm:

    I have to concur. I work in SF, and live in the East Bay. I go out fairly frequently in SF and have never seen a naked person lurking around, no less a bunch of 50 of them. I even get up to the castro on occasion (strange lack of women up there)

    If you are brave enough to whip your shit out in public, I tip my hat to your security of penis. I don’t particularly want to see it, but I can keep walking up the block.

    It is nowhere near as offensive, as say SAW IV or any number of violent things one may watch or see.

    If we are worry about things in SF, why don’t we worry about the mentally ill, insane folks living on the streets. Our time as a society would be better spent doing something for those people.

      

  17. 17Gil Batzri on Nov 4, 2011 at 5:45 pm:

    I did see a nice german woman sunbathing in Florida a few weeks ago take her top off, which I commended her for her “I don’t give a lick” attitude for, but she wasn’t 21 and gyrating next to me, so it really wasn’t that big a deal in my life.

      

  18. 18AsilisArt on Nov 5, 2011 at 4:36 am:

    Let’s sell California to Mexico…

      

  19. 19Dano on Nov 6, 2011 at 7:48 am:

    Enough already! Arrest these IDIOTS!! You’d never know this is the 21st century!

      

  20. 20naturistic on Nov 26, 2011 at 7:13 am:

    Violence doesn’t work. Nudity & safe sex does!

      

  21. 21mouzzelle on Dec 14, 2011 at 9:37 pm:

    It’s all about Sodom and Gomorrah again, why not call it the Sodomites Convention???

      

  22. 22Dean Martin on Dec 19, 2011 at 4:37 am:

    Why was there not a single nude woman at this protest?

      

  23. 23Mike on Jan 1, 2012 at 4:55 am:

    WHY wasn’t there a Naked Woman ??? Females tend to be more inhibited by nature. I just wish that Sacramento (where I reside) would adopt the same Nudity Laws. I’m NOT an Exhibitionist, just a TRUE Naturalist. I only wear clothes when absolutely necessary. I’m usually Nude behind “closed doors”. I work in the home Naked, I work in my secluded back yard Naked, occasionally, I work in the front yard Naked. Sometimes I take a stroll around the neighborhood Naked, and nobody seems to care. I’m an “Older” Gentleman ( A TRUE Gentleman in EVERY way ). Often times, people confuse Nudism with Perversion.

      

  24. 24Mike on Jan 1, 2012 at 5:11 am:

    BTW, I’m HWP. 57 y/o, and have been a Naturist since i can remember. I’m VERY Married, but the Mrs.(also 57) only sleeps in the Raw, or when We get in the Hot Tub.

      

  25. 25George on Jan 27, 2012 at 5:32 am:

    You guys are shameless beasts. We in Africa are just seeing a society that is not more civilised than the monkeys and chimpanzee,s in the jungle. Western culture and life style is becoming too degrading in the name of liberty and human right. Next thing we will hear or see is for some of you to started migrating in the jungles of brazil to meet your true cousins apes. What a madness. You guys need to see psychiatrists. Is just beyond normal. U are bundle of 21st century confusion.

      

  26. 26Gary on Jan 31, 2012 at 7:45 pm:

    ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF SICK SCUMS OUT THERE.

      

  27. 27joe on Feb 25, 2012 at 10:18 am:

    i bet alot of people complaining here on this site are masturbating to those pics!

      

  28. 28hicklespickle on Apr 7, 2012 at 12:39 pm:

    Dano: Enough already!Arrest these IDIOTS!!You’d never know this is the 21st century!

    So all the terrible crimes going on in the world today and what has you outraged is harmless nudity?

      

  29. 29Kim Boggs on Apr 26, 2012 at 9:55 am:

    Proud gay male nudist who loves being naked in public, HELL YES. I think being naked should be allowed any where with nudity being seen by everyone including kids. I have no shame being totally naked any where and I shouldn’t!! Right on for the cause of public nudity and public sex!! As a gay PIG, I really get into it!!!

    Kim Boggs
    Knoxville, TN
    kboggs327@comcast.net

      

  30. 30diehard nudist on May 6, 2012 at 10:42 pm:

    Why must they loiter anyway. As a nudist, I would enjoy walking everywhere. But if I arrive somewhere and plan to visit awhile, I would dress to be able to socialize. I am used to solitude hiking in the Angeles National Forest and rarely see anyone. I would be exhilerated to walk nude through San Francisco and experience that absolute freedom.
    It is a shame that a few ruin the wholesomeness of the feeling of being naked outdoors. I can understand how it can be viewed as having sexual intent, seems folks have trouble separating nudity and sex. What someone is thinking can’t be determined so what is most important is the choice of behaviour. If a cool breeze, the motion of walking itself, someone’s comment or just needing to urinate, triggers an involuntary moment of arousal, it is the choice of behaviour that truly shows ones intentions. If the person covers with a hat or carrying bag until no erection is present, it demonstrates courteous, responsible nudism. Of course, continuing to parade around at full staff…..we can agree exhibitionism is the intent. Exhibitionism as an outlet for some can still be enjoyed with someones consent but take it to a more private area at least. I always tried to describe to my daughter that the joy I feel being nude
    like a giggling baby boy slipping out of a wet diaper and waddling off. I am writing this comment as I have an unexpected opportunity to visit San Francisco this May a few days before Bay To Breakers. I hope to log several miles training for a nude walk in the race by touring the streets nude for three days. You won’t find me loitering anywhere, just walking. Think of how you would feel in a small plane at 10,000 feet with a parachute on your back about to take the leap. Your heart’s beating quite bit I imagine. That’s the thrill I feel, exciting yes, exhilerating yes, crazy, yes and yes! Sexual?
    Not for me at least. When you know you’re not misbehaving and staying withing the laws guidelines, you can totally relax and enjoy the wholesome primal freedom to the utmost degree. It’s simple really, just choose the appropriate
    behaviour. Granted the weather is not the most suitable, but I must admit that considering public nudity is OK in S.F., I find it hard to believe more folks don’t try it.

      

  31. 31Ralph on May 9, 2012 at 8:27 am:

    I have to agree with diehard nudist. It is because of the over-sexualising of nudity that we find it impossible to accept that there are a simple, pure joy that can be experienced from being naked. I went naked in Barcelona 2 years ago when visiting, not getting any sexual pleasure from it, just an incredible sense of freedom. If you cannot understand this, it is because your own minds have been infested with taught preconceived ideas of what is right and wrong.

    Don’t assume that all people were spoilt like you, simply because you believe that your (taught) ways are the only way that is ‘pure and acceptable’. There is an arrogance in that attitude that is messing up society a lot more than simply being nude in a social context. I also like the argument about other ‘unacceptable’ people being out on the streets for everybody to see: are they really less simply because they don’t conform to the norm? Didn’t they show that a truely free and content society create people that aren’t ruled by constricted, narrowminded mindsets to actually bring their strengths to society and live full lives? Why should we cover up simply because there are biased people around? Your social bias cannot be justified simply because there are more of you. Start thinking for yourself, please, that is the kind of people that the world really need more of.

      

  32. 32Jonquil on Jun 17, 2012 at 2:30 pm:

    I was in Spencer Tunick’s Dead Sea installation. I like the idea of being seen nude, by women of course, and I enjoy seeing naked women. There were no erections there, but there were over 1000 people who, like me, wanted to be naked in public. If the reason is sexual, or something deeper, I’m not sure. I think it may be more about celebrating one’s sexual identity, without considering sexual behavior. While the author is not exactly wrong, I’m not certain that the participants’ motives were the same as the those pushed by the sponsors.

      

  33. 33Richard Dey on Aug 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm:

    An emblematic phrase over the entrance to a city mortuary reads (in Latin): Abandon all modesty ye who enter here. This where the dead are disrobed, autopsies are performed, the organs of the otherwise unwanted are dispatched to be utilized, etc., and the nudophobes and their hysterical disapproval are silenced forever. Dust to dust, the Hebrews said, but Beowulf got it right: the best we can hope for is to be remembered; and the shocking thing to remember is that people who look like this wind up reproducing themselves to be remembered. Dey400@gmail.com

      

  34. 34Pookieamos on Sep 9, 2012 at 8:35 am:

    This is the kind of perversion that happens in a Godless society ! How DISgusting , I would NOT want my innocent children around this madness, what the hell is wrong with our country ? For GODS sake, take it to a private beach, keep it off the streets !

      

  35. 35susan on Sep 12, 2012 at 7:49 pm:

    I’m glad I finished dinner – looking at all that aging flesh, bulging guts and cellulite didn’t do a lot for my appetite.

      

  36. 36Twain Never Said it on Sep 14, 2012 at 8:35 pm:

    Unfortunately the Twain quote is false. He never said it. See Snoops.

      

  37. 37Tadesse A. on Oct 3, 2012 at 4:33 pm:

    This demonic stop nakedness God will come to you.

      

  38. 38Marcus on Oct 5, 2012 at 12:54 pm:

    susan: I’m glad I finished dinner – looking at all that aging flesh, bulging guts and cellulite didn’t do a lot for my appetite.

    It’s so easy to forget that we’ll all be there someday – including you.

      

  39. 39razz on Oct 7, 2012 at 12:28 pm:

    are they mad. getting worsely dressed than natives

      

  40. 40Cindy Williams on Oct 18, 2012 at 10:53 am:

    Hello My name is Cindy and I am a public nudist and have participated in several public events nude and in Frisco as well there is nothing wrong with dicks and pussies exposed and I am a nudist and proud of it.

    My e-mail address is: cindysweets1@hotmail.com

      

  41. 41Jp on Oct 21, 2012 at 5:26 pm:

    I haven’t seen any nudist sitting on towels…maybe they are using wash rags that go unseen??? On my way from Cliff’s to the Eureka Library recently, this not so attractive dude gave a tug on his junk as I was coming up the sidewalk. That’s lewd. So the arguments aren’t valid. Growing up in SF in the 80′s and 90′s, it was hard for me to accept being gay because I thought all gays were perverts. I would suggest that that was a pretty widely accepted view then. This is back in the day when MBLA met in the Main. The fags I encountered as a 13 year old made me feel unsafe. Gays have worked hard to promote a positive image, and so I feel like the nudist are setting us back. I wouldn’t want my nephew to feel unsafe like I did when he’s getting ogled by some creeper tugging his junk on the corner just because he wants to go to the Castro Theatre. It’s an iconic corner, and I don’t think the nudist belong there. I’d rather not have the seating area than have the nudist there, where I no longer feel comfortable sitting.

      

  42. 42Jp on Oct 21, 2012 at 5:31 pm:

    I haven’t seen any nudist sitting on towels…maybe they are using wash rags that go unseen??? On my way from Cliff’s to the Eureka Library recently, this not so attractive dude gave a tug on his junk as I was coming up the sidewalk. That’s lewd. So the arguments aren’t valid. Growing up in SF in the 80′s and 90′s, it was hard for me to accept being gay because I thought all gays were perverts. I would suggest that that was a pretty widely accepted view then. This is back in the day when MBLA met in the Main. The fags I encountered as a 13 year old made me feel unsafe. Gays have worked hard to promote a positive image, and so I feel like the nudist are setting us back. I wouldn’t want my nephew to feel unsafe like I did when he’s getting ogled by some creeper tugging his junk on the corner just because he wants to go to the Castro Theatre. It’s an iconic corner, and I don’t think the nudist belong there. I’d rather not have the seating area than have the nudist there, where I no longer feel comfortable sitting.

    OH…and I have to add, that my librarian friend at the said library had to ask this guy using the library computer to post ads on Craig’s List for sex in the library bathroom to stop having sex in the public restroom, which is also across from the children’s reading area. Just adding that for fun.

      

  43. 43Poul on Nov 21, 2012 at 8:42 am:

    I am from Denmark, in denmark legalisation of nudism killed nudism, legalisation of nude sunbathing on any given beach in DK destroyed the nudist movement. As nudist could sunbathe were they pleased, the nudist stopped visiting the nudist camps and also they stopped showing up naked in parks and on beaches. My point is that prohibition of nudity is the driving force behind this subculture.

      

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    Anyone is welcome to see me naked

    yurxtctoy@rocketmail.com

      

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