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		<title>By: Timothy (TRiG)</title>
		<link>http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=1677#comment-214107</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 23:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What, exactly, is the correct action to take when you discover a crime? Bradley Manning is a whistleblower, not a traitor. He was absolutely right to expose the callous disregard for life that perpetuates US military culture, and which can lead, among other things, to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article7088548.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;murder of children, journalists, and bystanders&lt;/a&gt;. He&#039;s a hero.

TRiG.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-184086&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-184086&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joanna&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I absolutely support Bradley Manning. He has revealed war crimes. War crimes belong in the public domain. This is an indisputable fact.
That he’s being held in solitary confinement and that most people in America don’t have a clue, demonstrates very clearly what kind of “democracy” the U.S upholds.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, exactly, is the correct action to take when you discover a crime? Bradley Manning is a whistleblower, not a traitor. He was absolutely right to expose the callous disregard for life that perpetuates US military culture, and which can lead, among other things, to the <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article7088548.ece" rel="nofollow">murder of children, journalists, and bystanders</a>. He&#8217;s a hero.</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-184086" rel="nofollow">Joanna</a></strong>: I absolutely support Bradley Manning. He has revealed war crimes. War crimes belong in the public domain. This is an indisputable fact.<br />
That he’s being held in solitary confinement and that most people in America don’t have a clue, demonstrates very clearly what kind of “democracy” the U.S upholds.</p>
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		<title>By: t. yamamoto</title>
		<link>http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=1677#comment-196423</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the real reason most people in America aren&#039;t that outraged by the Berkeley City Counsels resolution is the fact it&#039;s Berkeley.  I think by this point American just expects this kind of thing from them and just doesn&#039;t have the energy or time to care.  Next week they will do something else crazy or stupid and there is no point in caring.  You&#039;re probably only encouraging them if you pay attention to their latest little idiocy.    

Seriously every single headline talking about Berkeley looks like this:

&quot;Berkeley (city counsel/students/people) do/start (inert something crazy/treasonous/stupid here).&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real reason most people in America aren&#8217;t that outraged by the Berkeley City Counsels resolution is the fact it&#8217;s Berkeley.  I think by this point American just expects this kind of thing from them and just doesn&#8217;t have the energy or time to care.  Next week they will do something else crazy or stupid and there is no point in caring.  You&#8217;re probably only encouraging them if you pay attention to their latest little idiocy.    </p>
<p>Seriously every single headline talking about Berkeley looks like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Berkeley (city counsel/students/people) do/start (inert something crazy/treasonous/stupid here).&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: منتديات</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[منتديات]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 10:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Beastie Boys should play this]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Beastie Boys should play this</p>
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		<title>By: len</title>
		<link>http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=1677#comment-186813</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 05:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wikileaks: a Big Dangerous US Government Con Job

http://deadlinelive.info/2010/12/29/wikileaks-a-big-dangerous-us-government-con-job/


&quot;Most important, the 250,000 cables are not “top secret” as we might have thought. Between two and three million US Government employees are cleared to see this level of “secret” document, and some 500,000 people around the world have access to the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRnet) where the cables were stored. SIPRnet is not recommended for distribution of top-secret information. Only 6% or 15,000 pages of the documents have been classified as even secret, a level below top-secret. Another 40% were the lowest level, “confidential”, while the rest were unclassified. In brief, it was not all that secret. [2  ]

Most of the revelations so far have been unspectacular. In Germany the revelations led to the removal of a prominent young FDP politician close to Guido Westerwelle who apparently liked to talk too much to his counterpart at the US Embassy. The revelations about Russian politics, that a US Embassy official refers to Putin and Medvedev as “Batman and Robin,” tells more about the cultural level of current US State Department personnel than it does about internal Russian politics.

But for anyone who has studied the craft of intelligence and of disinformation, a clear pattern emerges in the Wikileaks drama. The focus is put on select US geopolitical targets, appearing as Hillary Clinton put it “to justify US sanctions against Iran.” They claim North Korea with China’s granting of free passage to Korean ships despite US State Department pleas, send dangerous missiles to Iran. Saudi Arabia’s ailing King Abdullah reportedly called Iran’s President a Hitler.

Excuse to police the Internet?

What is emerging from all the sound and Wikileaks fury in Washington is that the entire scandal is serving to advance a long-standing Obama and Bush agenda of policing the until-now free Internet. Already the US Government has shut the Wikileaks server in the United States though no identifiable US law has been broken. What is emerging from all the sound and Wikileaks fury in Washington is that the entire scandal is serving to advance a long-standing Obama and Bush agenda of policing the until-now free Internet. Already the US Government has shut the Wikileaks server in the United States though no identifiable US law has been broken.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikileaks: a Big Dangerous US Government Con Job</p>
<p><a href="http://deadlinelive.info/2010/12/29/wikileaks-a-big-dangerous-us-government-con-job/" rel="nofollow">http://deadlinelive.info/2010/12/29/wikileaks-a-big-dangerous-us-government-con-job/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Most important, the 250,000 cables are not “top secret” as we might have thought. Between two and three million US Government employees are cleared to see this level of “secret” document, and some 500,000 people around the world have access to the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRnet) where the cables were stored. SIPRnet is not recommended for distribution of top-secret information. Only 6% or 15,000 pages of the documents have been classified as even secret, a level below top-secret. Another 40% were the lowest level, “confidential”, while the rest were unclassified. In brief, it was not all that secret. [2  ]</p>
<p>Most of the revelations so far have been unspectacular. In Germany the revelations led to the removal of a prominent young FDP politician close to Guido Westerwelle who apparently liked to talk too much to his counterpart at the US Embassy. The revelations about Russian politics, that a US Embassy official refers to Putin and Medvedev as “Batman and Robin,” tells more about the cultural level of current US State Department personnel than it does about internal Russian politics.</p>
<p>But for anyone who has studied the craft of intelligence and of disinformation, a clear pattern emerges in the Wikileaks drama. The focus is put on select US geopolitical targets, appearing as Hillary Clinton put it “to justify US sanctions against Iran.” They claim North Korea with China’s granting of free passage to Korean ships despite US State Department pleas, send dangerous missiles to Iran. Saudi Arabia’s ailing King Abdullah reportedly called Iran’s President a Hitler.</p>
<p>Excuse to police the Internet?</p>
<p>What is emerging from all the sound and Wikileaks fury in Washington is that the entire scandal is serving to advance a long-standing Obama and Bush agenda of policing the until-now free Internet. Already the US Government has shut the Wikileaks server in the United States though no identifiable US law has been broken. What is emerging from all the sound and Wikileaks fury in Washington is that the entire scandal is serving to advance a long-standing Obama and Bush agenda of policing the until-now free Internet. Already the US Government has shut the Wikileaks server in the United States though no identifiable US law has been broken.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pious Agnostic</title>
		<link>http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=1677#comment-184272</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pious Agnostic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What war crimes have Bradley Manning revealed?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What war crimes have Bradley Manning revealed?</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joanna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I absolutely support Bradley Manning. He has revealed war crimes. War crimes belong in the public domain. This is an indisputable fact.
That he&#039;s being held in solitary confinement and that most people in America don&#039;t have a clue, demonstrates very clearly what kind of &quot;democracy&quot; the U.S upholds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely support Bradley Manning. He has revealed war crimes. War crimes belong in the public domain. This is an indisputable fact.<br />
That he&#8217;s being held in solitary confinement and that most people in America don&#8217;t have a clue, demonstrates very clearly what kind of &#8220;democracy&#8221; the U.S upholds.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 01:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, Mikie Moore disagrees with most everyone here: &quot;Poor Bradley Manning...He Should Be Rewarded, Not Be in Prison&quot; 
Ouch!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Mikie Moore disagrees with most everyone here: &#8220;Poor Bradley Manning&#8230;He Should Be Rewarded, Not Be in Prison&#8221;<br />
Ouch!</p>
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		<title>By: Xpltivdletd</title>
		<link>http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=1677#comment-183496</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 03:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good grief.  Thanks to Dan in Georgia&#039;s rudely taking this lively debate back on-topic, we have the law before us!

Many years ago when I served in the Canoe-club, I had a job with a SECRET Clearance, for a time.  I still remember the training required (including signing our names that we had each &quot;...read-&amp;-understood&quot; all that stuff) before the clearance was granted.  Here are a couple of points on that.  SECRET Clearance doesn&#039;t entitle you to access to jack, unless you also have &quot;The Need-to-know.&quot;  Think of a Clearance as one key; NTK as the other; unless you have both, you don&#039;t get in.  Unless you have both, *for* the particular material, you don&#039;t get to view it or physically to pick it up &amp; carry it anywhere.

The notion that Bradley Manning had access to more Classified materials than one Enlisted-man&#039;s job-description required--just doesn&#039;t cut it.  Might be the stuff of some B-movie, shown late at night on TV, but unless much has changed since 1989, Manning just could not be the sole source.  He might be on his way to becoming a conspicuous example, and the actual case for his prosecution may be bulletproof.  But the damage the whole CWO4 John Walker Treason-ring did (&quot;spies&quot; they were not), they took years doing, a piece at a time; a team-effort.  If WE settle for a Bradley Manning, twisting in the wind, even if he bought &amp; paid for that swing, shame on us.  A nice, stout ridgepole and many lengths of rope are in order.

Assange&#039;s technical, lawful culpability, I leave to those academically qualified to discuss it.  I doubt he&#039;s lost much sleep over whose laws he may have violated by receiving info with which he now plays.  The higher above the law one elevates self, the more kinetic energy may go into the math if (by chance) one falls.  RKBA!  Best regards, all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief.  Thanks to Dan in Georgia&#8217;s rudely taking this lively debate back on-topic, we have the law before us!</p>
<p>Many years ago when I served in the Canoe-club, I had a job with a SECRET Clearance, for a time.  I still remember the training required (including signing our names that we had each &#8220;&#8230;read-&amp;-understood&#8221; all that stuff) before the clearance was granted.  Here are a couple of points on that.  SECRET Clearance doesn&#8217;t entitle you to access to jack, unless you also have &#8220;The Need-to-know.&#8221;  Think of a Clearance as one key; NTK as the other; unless you have both, you don&#8217;t get in.  Unless you have both, *for* the particular material, you don&#8217;t get to view it or physically to pick it up &amp; carry it anywhere.</p>
<p>The notion that Bradley Manning had access to more Classified materials than one Enlisted-man&#8217;s job-description required&#8211;just doesn&#8217;t cut it.  Might be the stuff of some B-movie, shown late at night on TV, but unless much has changed since 1989, Manning just could not be the sole source.  He might be on his way to becoming a conspicuous example, and the actual case for his prosecution may be bulletproof.  But the damage the whole CWO4 John Walker Treason-ring did (&#8220;spies&#8221; they were not), they took years doing, a piece at a time; a team-effort.  If WE settle for a Bradley Manning, twisting in the wind, even if he bought &amp; paid for that swing, shame on us.  A nice, stout ridgepole and many lengths of rope are in order.</p>
<p>Assange&#8217;s technical, lawful culpability, I leave to those academically qualified to discuss it.  I doubt he&#8217;s lost much sleep over whose laws he may have violated by receiving info with which he now plays.  The higher above the law one elevates self, the more kinetic energy may go into the math if (by chance) one falls.  RKBA!  Best regards, all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan in Georgia.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan in Georgia.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 13:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like Assange can be prosecuted under US law -- after all, we don&#039;t ignore prosecuting foreigners for drug crimes.  Shoot, we even invaded Panama to bring ol&#039; pineapple-face to trial.

But a quickie search yielded me a bit of Title 18, USC love:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000793----000-.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

Title 18, US Code, part I, chapter 37, § 793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.

(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or 

(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;... 

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Assange can be prosecuted under US law &#8212; after all, we don&#8217;t ignore prosecuting foreigners for drug crimes.  Shoot, we even invaded Panama to bring ol&#8217; pineapple-face to trial.</p>
<p>But a quickie search yielded me a bit of Title 18, USC love:<br />
<a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000793----000-.html" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>Title 18, US Code, part I, chapter 37, § 793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.</p>
<p>(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or </p>
<p>(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;&#8230; </p>
<p>Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, Bakunin is positive that Obama is not a socialist.  So, rather than be a paranoid conspiracy theorist conservative (who would point to any number of pieces of evidence to the contrary, such as Obama&#039;s Joe the Plumber moment) let&#039;s hear you, sir, explain specifically how Obama is NOT a socialist?  But first, to be fair, we need to establish what socialism is and what it isn&#039;t.  So please, help us understand Bakunin, what is Barack Obama, politically speaking?

Here is an excerpt from &quot;Prairie Fire&quot; to get us all in the mood:

&lt;em&gt;Our intention is to disrupt the empire, to incapacitate it, to put pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning against the people of the world, to join the world struggle, to attack from the inside.&quot; 
&quot;The only path to the &lt;strong&gt;final defeat of imperialism and the building of socialism &lt;/strong&gt;is revolutionary war.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Bakunin is positive that Obama is not a socialist.  So, rather than be a paranoid conspiracy theorist conservative (who would point to any number of pieces of evidence to the contrary, such as Obama&#8217;s Joe the Plumber moment) let&#8217;s hear you, sir, explain specifically how Obama is NOT a socialist?  But first, to be fair, we need to establish what socialism is and what it isn&#8217;t.  So please, help us understand Bakunin, what is Barack Obama, politically speaking?</p>
<p>Here is an excerpt from &#8220;Prairie Fire&#8221; to get us all in the mood:</p>
<p><em>Our intention is to disrupt the empire, to incapacitate it, to put pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning against the people of the world, to join the world struggle, to attack from the inside.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The only path to the <strong>final defeat of imperialism and the building of socialism </strong>is revolutionary war.&#8221; </em></p>
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